Thread: Zoidac Weapon 2.28

For a master painter... Painting a very small house is easy, painting a mansion can be difficult, or hard. Painting 5 houses in one day even more difficult. The way the man paints hasn't changed between the houses... But the extremely long task place before him could be considered "hard".

A man licking envelopes for a living is a cake walk job, that doesn't take any skill. But after a 10 hour shift... He still has completed a "hard days work". Was what he did hard? Nope, but committing to it for a 10 hour shift 5 days a week, was pretty hard. LMAO

do you really think they will leave this uncheck for long? you can dream.

Originally Posted by Luciano_Bozzelli

For a master painter... Painting a very small house is easy, painting a mansion can be difficult, or hard. Painting 5 houses in one day even more difficult. The way the man paints hasn't changed between the houses... But the extremely long task place before him could be considered "hard".

A man licking envelopes for a living is a cake walk job, that doesn't take any skill. But after a 10 hour shift... He still has completed a "hard days work". Was what he did hard? Nope, but committing to it for a 10 hour shift 5 days a week, was pretty hard. LMAO

you do recall that we are playing at a game... not pointing to a work... just saying!

Originally Posted by silentwindfr

do you really think they will leave this uncheck for long? you can dream.



you do recall that we are playing at a game... not pointing to a work... just saying!

Your missing the whole point... I'm addressing the fact that people are saying just because you have to grind low level fates, its easy. Just because your not fighting a lv 100 boss, its easy. Nothing is easy about camping those fates all day. And nothing is easy about grinding 1500 Myths a book. That's all I'm saying...

I'm talking about the stupid person who likes to jump in when someone says grinding fates, or completing the Animus is hard just to say, "No its not its easy because your doing low level fates." And the idiots always bringing up the time=difficulty argument. When it's not about that at all. When the "hard" we mean is that its not easily obtainable, nor can you wave gil at high level players to do it for you. Hence the grind factor.

Originally Posted by silentwindfr

ok, my bad, we are saying the same then hehe

Yeah who knows what those guys were thinking when they made the quest. But it was made, it was handed to me on a plate, so I ate it, and got my Animus. Have had it for a week and a half now. And it makes me a bit stronger for my raid group. I was apart of a group that constantly died on T5, and some of them never got past it, so when 2.2 dropped I was on turn 6 with no raid group, and I wasn't the type to abandon them trying to help them get past 5. So in the meanwhile I got my Animus because I knew it would always be upgradable. But they eventually broke up the raid group, and I've been picked up by a new raid group that is on T6. And I didn't really feel like skipping through the storyline real fast to get to Leviathan ex to do it over and over for a weapon so I chose the atma route. I knew that even if I did go get a Leviathan weapon (Although i'm on it now, the storyline was ok, but a bit shorter than expected) I would eventually still need to complete my relic. Because when turn 10 gets introduced, I'm sure you'll be able to upgrade that relic.

I'm a black mage, and if you ask me that's a lot of soldiery (1200 sol's and chest drop from T7) for 40 accuracy along with 28 spell speed for my weathered weapon. I don't have accuracy problems, and I have a lot of jewelry with accuracy on it at the moment along with the fact that my Animus has 40 spell speed on it. So I was looking forward to the next part of the Zodiac quest so I can look even sexier because where I'm from (FFXI) the word "relic" meant something. LOL

The sad thing that we fail to realize is playing an MMORPG is nothing but a tedious grind. We log on everyday to get stronger, and while you sleep or are at work some people are getting stronger. The whole concept of the game is a grind. My cousin once did 70 Crystal towers without seeing his scholar gloves drop. Stuff like this happens. We play the games to get things, but we also play the game for the company of our friends and to see them get things as well while experiencing epic battles with our friends. It's not always about "us". What we get in the game is just a bonus to our contributions, dedication, time, and achievements.

explain how its awful? its one of the most ingenious systems/ideas ive ever seen in an mmo. They not only gave a lenghty quest that required time and effort, but they did it in such a way it got people back into the world and into desolate dungeons thereby balancing out the population.

Are you seriously white knighting FATE grinding with a < 3% drop rate? If only the content we were being pushed into wasn't as boring as all hell, and pretty much played to death by anyone with a lvl 50 job. Then it might not be so awful. Combine that with ultra low drop rates for Atma, and there's nothing to call it but awful.

This is why people haven't done their weapons. It's tedious, tired content, and you're not guaranteed results. I only finished my Atma stage on Tuesday, and that's with pretty casually doing FATE's since the patch (i.e. combined with dailes and when I'm waiting on PF etc.). My situation is probably quite common, and is indicative of more realistic timing for Atma/Animus progress. Sucks if you ground it out frothing at the mouth within a few days of release and now you want to keep working on it, but that's not the case for majority of people.

Also, this notion that people want things handed to them on a Silver Platter has got to stop, most people really don't want that, and you're just being noxious by repeating that kind of thing. People want a system that's fair and rewarding, it's quite simple. Not one where acquiring an Atma can take anywhere between 1 and 1000 minutes depending on your luck.