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  1. #101
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    DkFusion's Avatar
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    Nook Ni
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KoujiMoreno View Post
    So fun = easy now?
    The grind wasn't fun, even you admit it and now you're saying people are entitled because they're calling out things that aren't fun? Or are you saying you like doing things that aren't fun (but wouldn't that make it fun if you like doing it, wut?)

    Are you confusing a timing consuming, mind numbing activity as hard?
    Time consuming and Hard are the same thing. People have constantly as of late been trying to seperate the two. Regardless if it takes 60 hours to down Turn 9 for loot or farm myth for 60 hours for Animus, they both require 60 hards and are more difficult then something that takes 30 minutes minute to complete. The grind is already inherently more easy as it doesn't require to rely on the competency of 7 other players, just your persistence in completing it.
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  2. #102
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    Nook Ni
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Everyone says they don't want it to be a grind, but they want it to be difficult. Attach it to a primal? So it can be bought...attach it to a coil turn? Coil already as weapons of similar level and ability. The myth grind is fine, the atma grind is fine. I didn't say it was fun but I sure as heck felt a lot of accomplishment when it was done. SE set a bad precedent with the original relic quest line and ease of completion. Without a grind to always create a generic time table people will over gear content (Titan HM) and people will have them for every job, which in my opinion you shouldn't be able to 9/9 in a month.
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  3. #103
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    KoujiMoreno's Avatar
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    Soi Fong
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by DkFusion View Post
    Time consuming and Hard are the same thing. People have constantly as of late been trying to seperate the two. Regardless if it takes 60 hours to down Turn 9 for loot or farm myth for 60 hours for Animus, they both require 60 hards and are more difficult then something that takes 30 minutes minute to complete. The grind is already inherently more easy as it doesn't require to rely on the competency of 7 other players, just your persistence in completing it.
    I don't even know what to say.
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  4. #104
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    MrLeonheart's Avatar
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    Cyrus Twirkin
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    Excalibur
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by DkFusion View Post
    Time consuming and Hard are the same thing.
    I'll spell this out as plainly as I can. Things that are hard are often time consuming. However, time consuming things are not always hard.

    Now, guess which category the atma/animus grind falls into.
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  5. #105
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by MrLeonheart View Post
    I'll spell this out as plainly as I can. Things that are hard are often time consuming. However, time consuming things are not always hard.

    Now, guess which category the atma/animus grind falls into.
    People who cannot dedicate the time, have a hard time doing so. It's hard for many people, just for a different reason.
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  6. #106
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    KoujiMoreno's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    People who cannot dedicate the time, have a hard time doing so. It's hard for many people, just for a different reason.
    Time management is hard.
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  7. #107
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    Cloudcroft Ieyasu
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    Marauder Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by DkFusion View Post
    Time consuming and Hard are the same thing. People have constantly as of late been trying to seperate the two. Regardless if it takes 60 hours to down Turn 9 for loot or farm myth for 60 hours for Animus, they both require 60 hards and are more difficult then something that takes 30 minutes minute to complete. The grind is already inherently more easy as it doesn't require to rely on the competency of 7 other players, just your persistence in completing it.
    Consumption of time does not equate to something being hard or easy.... If I do Bray for 60 hours, it is still the same as doing it during the first hour or the last hour.
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  8. #108
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    Ruzuya Raz
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    My problem with this quest is a lot of work for item 100 that is not even best in slot. I have the weapon i was looking foward to the quest to expand today with this patch. The quest is difficult a true grind and i was looking foward for more so it can at least match 110 weapons with it. I wish i did not have to wait much more to work on it.
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  9. #109
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoujiMoreno View Post
    Time management is hard.
    More like some don't have the time, so it's harder to find the time to do so.
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  10. #110
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    Zaknafein Do'urden
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by DkFusion View Post
    Time consuming and Hard are the same thing.
    This is not true at all. Just because something is time consuming doesn't make it difficult.
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