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  1. #51
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    AlrikRouge's Avatar
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    Alrik Rouge
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    Cerberus
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    How long would you have your job once your boss realized that most of your work gets delayed and that all those delays were caused by you not thinking ahead and properly planning it out?

    Also how much feedback has there been to take into account?
    1. People that don't have their atmas yet don't like grinding fates.
    2. People don't like farming mythology tomestones for weapons, but are ok with it for gear.
    3. People like bagels, but obviously forum mods do not.
    4. People like big butts and they cannot lie.
    Great summary
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  2. #52
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    Legacy Wolfwood
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Giantbane View Post
    It would be nice if they upped the respawn rate for fates included in the books. Waiting hours for a fate to spawn only to have it killed in a couple min (or less) is extremely boring. (Giant seps comes to mind)
    true. but given the current system. 4 days you should be able to get all the fates for the book. though personally a small buff to the respawn rate would be nice so i do agree with that
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  3. #53
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    Nabian's Avatar
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    Blanitar Abarhyrsyn
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    Excalibur
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    I don't mind the book grind...in fact i'm completely ok with it. But i personally refuse to farm atma until they increase the drop rates, or modify it so that you receive the atma after a certain number of fates.
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  4. #54
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    Abyss King
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Stop being in the lodestone or reddit. That Sep Fate has just been done by the time you were here.

    Stop QQing; everyone is doing it: if you want an easy game try minesweeper. On EZPZ mode.

    You want the iLvl130 gear and weapons right in your inventory, before it's even available, without lifting a finger to get it. *OMG Sastasha NM is too hard, nerf it!

    I am displeased as well with the Atma; I've had my shares of Fates (Paragon's Gown to prove it), I'm more than fed up with them, but if that's the way some 'complained relic was too easy in the first place' and SE listened.. then I shall adapt and dodge.. without the lag caused by whiners..

    Can't wait next new thing that will come around.. so you will stop pointing Zodiac quest and put all your excess energy into it.

    TL;DR - () <-- intended so you read it fully.
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  5. #55
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    HardcoreHolly's Avatar
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    Kosaki Onodera
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    Diabolos
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Legacy_Wolfwood View Post
    book cost is fine. if you ONLY do your dailys, then that is a book in 4-5 days. dailys only take about 2hrs-3hrs depending on the teams and thats accounting for fails on trial roulette and long q times. if you do 2-4 50 tome runs on top of your dailys then you can have the book in 3 days exact.

    ~4 days is ample enough time to complete a book for a casual player.

    So if you are very casual and only try to do 1 book on a weekly basis, you can complete it in ~9 weeks.

    1 year is a total exaggeration.

    Atma grind is the only thing that needs a tiny bit of help. can still be through current system. just buff up the drop rate a tiny bit.
    I didn't realize Duty gave that much myth. Then again if you factor in the wait time for DPS queues... it's still a long time. Oh well... I just want that glow.
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  6. #56
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    Elvin Rath
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    Moogle
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    Alchemist Lv 51
    And the need MORE feedback? hehe...
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  7. #57
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    Purrfectstorm's Avatar
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    Purrfect Storm
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    It took me about 360 fates over 3 days to get Atma (I kept track). It takes me about 5 days to get and do a book (doing mostly just roulette i.e. <3 hours a day). I'm on my 5th book. Pacing seems fine so far to me (although I realize mine is not the only perspective). I'm glad for the delay because I might've felt obligated to step up my grinding. I'm glad I can play more casually and not feel like I'm falling behind. Also, I'm glad that the quest is time consuming but not difficult. There's enough difficult content in the game for good gear. I like an alternative progression path that doesn't force you into statics, even if the gear is only 3rd best.
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  8. #58
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    Jinko Jinko
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Not to side with any "one apple" but Relic/Zodiac quest is suppose to take a considerable amounts of time to obtain. What's the point of calling it a relic/zodiac if it's quickly obtained?

    Make it easy (like relic) hardcores get it in less than a day, make it hard casuals can take up to 5-6 months to obtain. The goal is for these types of long quest is to make it so hardcore players have a hard time getting it ( but not this atma grind fest lol). It's called a relic/zodiac for a reason :P.
    Do both, have the base Zenith/Atma,Animus/Novus for casuals and the +1 version for hardcore players.
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  9. #59
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    Moheeheeko's Avatar
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    Asrah Stone
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Do both, have the base Zenith/Atma,Animus/Novus for casuals and the +1 version for hardcore players.
    And you know whats wrong with that? the casuals wil STILL complain because they dont have the best one, and instead of doing the work for it will just flood the forums even more with QQ.
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  10. #60
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    NoRyoKu's Avatar
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    Noryoku Nory
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    Siren
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    I don't understand why a quest in an MMO should feel super satisfying for those who can put time in it and super unsatisfying for those who don't have the time. We all play the same game you know.

    Are you telling me : "You don't want to grind?? then just don't play and don't get the super cool items ????"
    Are you telling me : "You want the super cool Novus weapon?? welcome to FFXIV a grind reborn
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