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  1. #41
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
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    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    To get rid of the RNG they should just let you buy the ATMA from your GC at 50k seals each. But....you can only buy 4 different ATMAs from each GC. The items can be traded but only for other ATMAs (not Gil)

    It'll be like a trading card mini game.

    I don't mind that the quest is delayed since farming the myth will take me that long. I feel bad for those that are waiting for the next step. It kinda sucks for those who are waiting to see what changes before even starting the quest as they will be waiting even longer. But I guess that's their choice.
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  2. #42
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    Mcshiggs's Avatar
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    Vizzer Mcshiggs
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    Sargatanas
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by NoRyoKu View Post
    Would it be THAT bad if they change the atma drop rate from 1% to 5%??? whould it be THAT bad if they changed the cost from 1500 to 100??
    do this and you will never see a thread complaining about atma again.
    Where do you get your drop rate percentages, is it something you made up, or is it something you read that other people made up. Also people will complain about anything, no matter what they do, if they raise the drop rates, then people will complain that it's just being handed to the people that aren't willing to put in the time. Also you can't judge the majority or minority of what players think based on the forums, most people that play the game don't visit the Lodestone or the forums.
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  3. #43
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    TrickedOutHoro's Avatar
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    Zephyr Winds
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    Midgardsormr
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    Best decision Square has made in a while.
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  4. #44
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    Moheeheeko's Avatar
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    Asrah Stone
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by NoRyoKu View Post

    Think about it carefully. Would it be THAT bad if they change the atma drop rate from 1% to 5%??? whould it be THAT bad if they changed the cost from 1500 to 100??

    do this and you will never see a thread complaining about atma again.
    right, lets make the best weapon in the game (in 2.3) trivial and easy to get, simply because you cant stand to play more than a few hours a week.

    /eyeroll
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  5. #45
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    Quiz's Avatar
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    Quiz Noir
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Didn't read any of the posts in this thread, only the LFTP. Personally I'm gutted I can't upgrade my animus tomorrow like I had planned ;-;
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  6. #46
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    Seif Dincht
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    Balmung
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    Whoa the wording is really really bad.

    It's like it's OUR fault this quest got delayed because we didn't win the lottery multiple times in a row and they think this random limbo of easy low level fates is too "hard" for us.


    *epicfacepalm*
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seif View Post
    Whoa the wording is really really bad.

    It's like it's OUR fault this quest got delayed because we didn't win the lottery multiple times in a row and they think this random limbo of easy low level fates is too "hard" for us.
    Look, you need to understand something about Yoshi, he has no faults. If he gives us wrong information, it is because someone gave him wrong information. Why do you think Yoshi wears so many rings? So when his subordinates make him look like a fool he can deal with them. Do you know why they started selling retainers? So Yoshi could buy new rings because he damaged so many from teaching his subordinates a lesson. You sir clearly need to step up your game and will the atma to drop.
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  8. #48
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    Legacy_Wolfwood's Avatar
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    Legacy Wolfwood
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by HardcoreHolly View Post
    Drop the damn 1500 book costs. They marketed Zodiac weapons as breaking the grind monotony yet you have to either grind out the 9 books or casually play for 1 year to get the animus... which isn't even top tier.
    book cost is fine. if you ONLY do your dailys, then that is a book in 4-5 days. dailys only take about 2hrs-3hrs depending on the teams and thats accounting for fails on trial roulette and long q times. if you do 2-4 50 tome runs on top of your dailys then you can have the book in 3 days exact.

    ~4 days is ample enough time to complete a book for a casual player.

    So if you are very casual and only try to do 1 book on a weekly basis, you can complete it in ~9 weeks.

    1 year is a total exaggeration.

    Atma grind is the only thing that needs a tiny bit of help. can still be through current system. just buff up the drop rate a tiny bit.
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  9. #49
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    Adol Giantbane
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Legacy_Wolfwood View Post
    book cost is fine. if you ONLY do your dailys, then that is a book in 4-5 days. dailys only take about 2hrs-3hrs depending on the teams and thats accounting for fails on trial roulette and long q times. if you do 2-4 50 tome runs on top of your dailys then you can have the book in 3 days exact.

    ~4 days is ample enough time to complete a book for a casual player.

    So if you are very casual and only try to do 1 book on a weekly basis, you can complete it in ~9 weeks.

    1 year is a total exaggeration.

    Atma grind is the only thing that needs a tiny bit of help. can still be through current system. just buff up the drop rate a tiny bit.
    It would be nice if they upped the respawn rate for fates included in the books. Waiting hours for a fate to spawn only to have it killed in a couple min (or less) is extremely boring. (Giant seps comes to mind)
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  10. #50
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    Cloudcroft Ieyasu
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    Goblin
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    Marauder Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    They never marketed the zodiak quest, they mentioned it in a couple live letters, and they said it would be time consuming and involve low drop rates. Atmas are low drop rates, like they said, and farming mythology is time consuming just like they said.
    Sounds to me they may feel that it is too grindy. Especially since more people are apt to bypass the Atma's in favor of other weapons instead. A waste of content.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    Where do you get your drop rate percentages, is it something you made up, or is it something you read that other people made up. Also people will complain about anything, no matter what they do, if they raise the drop rates, then people will complain that it's just being handed to the people that aren't willing to put in the time. Also you can't judge the majority or minority of what players think based on the forums, most people that play the game don't visit the Lodestone or the forums.
    This is also true, but I would hardly say that this takes work at all, nerf or not. It's much easier for someone to say that time wasn't put in when they were lucky on all 12 Atmas compared to Joe Schmoe who has been grinding the hell out of FATE and has nothing to show for it. I got two Atmas last night back to back(30 minutes feels like back to back). I wouldn't say I worked for it either. I just happened to show up. Then nothing for 5 hours after. The Atma time sink and RNG shouldn't be as brutal. I am fine with the books being as super grindy as they are but the drop rate should be more consistent.
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