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    Player
    Otoha's Avatar
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    Jo Maru
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    Hyperion
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by NoRyoKu View Post
    Do you people understand that for players like me that can only get the time to grind atma 5 hours a week, i will obtain my atma in like a month. THEN I have to geth 13500 myth. The rate I accumulate them now is something like 700-800 per week. This mean i'm gonna get Animus in like 6 month ++. This mean patch 2.3 and surely patch 2.4. This mean more quests about relic.

    Are you kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!! I so don't care that the quest is postpone. Will it be ever possible to finish the relic quests for atma / animus / novus for a casual player????? Is this weapon only for pure grinders and no lifers??? Because I can't see the end of it for myself
    So what you're saying is, because you mess around with an MMO a few hours a week. It's ok for them to postpone it for players like you?
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    NoRyoKu's Avatar
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    Noryoku Nory
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    Siren
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Otoha View Post
    So what you're saying is, because you mess around with an MMO a few hours a week. It's ok for them to postpone it for players like you?
    I didn't said i didn't want them to release content, i said i don't care about it being postpone What i'm saying is that in a MMO, you have to please everybody to do a great job, hardcore, elistist, casual, new player, etc... etc... So they MUST cut the apple in half and give some candy to every type of player.

    So they must

    1 - Release new relic quest line (for hardcore)
    2 - Adjust the current questline (RNG + change book cost) (for casual)
    3 - Make the quests attainable before a decade (for new player PS4, etc....)

    This way everybody is happy. The end. That would be fantastic, I action per player type
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    NoRyoKu

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    Luna Sushima
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoRyoKu View Post
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    Not to side with any "one apple" but Relic/Zodiac quest is suppose to take a considerable amounts of time to obtain. What's the point of calling it a relic/zodiac if it's quickly obtained?

    Make it easy (like relic) hardcores get it in less than a day, make it hard casuals can take up to 5-6 months to obtain. The goal is for these types of long quest is to make it so hardcore players have a hard time getting it ( but not this atma grind fest lol). It's called a relic/zodiac for a reason :P.
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    Jinko Jinko
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Not to side with any "one apple" but Relic/Zodiac quest is suppose to take a considerable amounts of time to obtain. What's the point of calling it a relic/zodiac if it's quickly obtained?

    Make it easy (like relic) hardcores get it in less than a day, make it hard casuals can take up to 5-6 months to obtain. The goal is for these types of long quest is to make it so hardcore players have a hard time getting it ( but not this atma grind fest lol). It's called a relic/zodiac for a reason :P.
    Do both, have the base Zenith/Atma,Animus/Novus for casuals and the +1 version for hardcore players.
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    Arias Lightbearer
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Otoha View Post
    So what you're saying is, because you mess around with an MMO a few hours a week. It's ok for them to postpone it for players like you?
    No, he's saying that it already takes him forever. He doesn't care that everything is postponed because he's already mad that it's a system that is very anti-casual and he's going to just keep falling further behind no matter if the quests are added now or next month.

    As another very casual player, I can sorta understand his frustration. For me, though, I don't really care because the more content they add before I get to the endgame, the more I have to do when I get there.

    EDIT: Also, Reddit has an interesting theory regarding the Zodiac weapons, Atmas, and time. Some people have been getting their Atmas very quickly by experimenting with this.
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    Last edited by TheRogueX; 04-24-2014 at 02:03 PM.

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    Blanitar Abarhyrsyn
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    Excalibur
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    I don't mind the book grind...in fact i'm completely ok with it. But i personally refuse to farm atma until they increase the drop rates, or modify it so that you receive the atma after a certain number of fates.
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    Tyce Rousel
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by NoRyoKu View Post
    Do you people understand that for players like me that can only get the time to grind atma 5 hours a week, i will obtain my atma in like a month. THEN I have to geth 13500 myth. The rate I accumulate them now is something like 700-800 per week. This mean i'm gonna get Animus in like 6 month ++. This mean patch 2.3 and surely patch 2.4. This mean more quests about relic.
    You can get at a minimum 425 Myth per day doing DF roulettes and beastmen dailies. Assuming you can only manage to get that done, that's 4 days to get a book (with tomes left over.) You can easily bang out a book a week if you put a small amount of effort in.

    Yea, Animus is an investment in time. Sorry it cannot simply be handed to you for doing a short questline, which sounds like that is what you want. There is Titan and Coil for you then to upgrade your weapon.
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    Arakatos Evereign
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    Lamia
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by NoRyoKu View Post
    Do you people understand that for players like me that can only get the time to grind atma 5 hours a week, i will obtain my atma in like a month. THEN I have to geth 13500 myth. The rate I accumulate them now is something like 700-800 per week. This mean i'm gonna get Animus in like 6 month ++. This mean patch 2.3 and surely patch 2.4. This mean more quests about relic.

    Are you kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!! I so don't care that the quest is postpone. Will it be ever possible to finish the relic quests for atma / animus / novus for a casual player????? Is this weapon only for pure grinders and no lifers??? Because I can't see the end of it for myself
    Everyone please remember that it's not a race to get the damn weapons! Enjoy the game and get it when you get it. So delay or no delay, shouldn't impact your fun. Don't let the hardcore players tell you otherwise!
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    Ecks Grimoirath
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Saddest news all day, sadder than zoning in to a zone to see the FATE I needed was up only to have someone else finish it before I could reach it. ;____; I want to work on my relic more. Now I gotta wait another month (since they likely wont be doing 2.28 til the end of May).
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    Player JayCommon's Avatar
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    Indaki Sativa
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    inb4 the May release of Novus just creates new fates (where you aren't ability locked!!! GASP!!!!!) to spawn sphere scrolls from
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