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    Worm's Avatar
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    Gulvak Garamonde
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    Quote Originally Posted by Castillan View Post
    Why is it insane to determine what the (typical) worst case scenario is, and then ask oneself, "Is this what we really intend with our system"? I'm a software engineer. I write code for a living. One of the things we're always doing, ALWAYS, is to look at the worst case scenario and determine if that is fair and reasonable and tolerable by the consumers of the software we make, and if it's not, then we find a better solution.
    Well fortunately end user apps and video games are two very different things. I don't know what to tell you I didn't mind low drop rates in WoW and I don't mind them here. Your argument is essentially against anything that has a chance to not drop, since there will always be disparity somehow, and apparently things not being absolutely fair is now the worst thing in MMOs. I mean to you poker is broken, blackjack is broken, lottery tickets are broken, these are all awful unfair systems that need to be fixed by software engineers such as yourself. I just think you're silly, there's nothing wrong inherently with an item that doesn't drop the problem is players who don't have the maturity to get over the fact that their friend got a thing before they did.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keldare View Post
    So. Im at 24 hours worth of attempt time at this animus quest and I. Total I have 3 atma. Im at this point im certain im going to exceed whatever you deem a "non casual" grind. Please enlighten me how many more hours do I need to grind before my disdain is justified?
    So you got none in the first 12 hours and then 3 in the second 12 hours? How are you still complaining? You literally just got 1/4th of the crazy outlier super lucky event you were belly aching about! Your disdain won't ever be justified because it is by definition petty and bitter, you can't approach rightful disdain because your issue isn't the time or the drop rate, your issue is that someone else got luckier than you. Mix that in with the handful of posters complaining about being on their 700th+ attempt with no Atma and you think you're justified but you're just upset that you weren't one of the lucky few. This grind could literally require 2000 fates for each Atma and I don't even know if you'd complain!
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    Last edited by Worm; 04-24-2014 at 03:19 AM.