Idling while waiting for stuff to happen is not effort.
Idling while waiting for stuff to happen is not effort.

Nova thanks for making a better post about drop rates than me. Though I don't think forum posts were ever a good metric for player opinions. You probably had just as many threads about the first Relic being too easy as you have now about Atma being too hard.
This just feels like another non-point. Is farming Myth some really skilled based effort? I mean what can in your mind actually be done to make someone deserve their relic? What really defines effort in these games? Since apparently farming, camping, and all other things you don't want to do don't constitute effort.

There is a difference between constant progress and a completely random drop.This just feels like another non-point. Is farming Myth some really skilled based effort? I mean what can in your mind actually be done to make someone deserve their relic? What really defines effort in these games? Since apparently farming, camping, and all other things you don't want to do don't constitute effort.
One of my FC members got 1 drop so far in close to 500 FATEs over the last ~2 weeks for example.
If there was some sort of strategy to get them, like the lvl50 rare gathering nodes which only appear at certain times, or a system where your chances of a drop would increase the longer you do FATEs in an area, their current approach for ATMA farming would work.
If the FATEs would at least be a challenge!
But the only challenge is to get to a FATE before it's finished.
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