Community Ignored about Atma?

[Worm]

337 FATEs in Central Shroud so far and still no ATMA... not sure about your theory

I don't know how you're so unlucky, but assuming because it took you 338 FATEs over a weekend marathon session that it would take you the same amount if you were doing a few fates per day is just completely wrong. I mean how much time exactly did the FATEs taken anyway? I always see complaints on number of FATEs or time spent farming, but no one ever mentions both. It's almost like they go out of their way to pick the number that sounds worse.

As I stated before, waiting for things to get nerfed is not how content should be done. You're basically telling people to go get themselves locked out for several months until a nerf arrives.

I'm telling people who hate grinding to not do it, yeah. So what? People obviously are getting very upset and bothered by this grind so they should stop and wait for it to be nerfed as opposed to demanding a nerf now. Why would you want to waste the limited time you have on this planet? It's like people are in a jail cell bitterly carving every hour into the jail wall with their broken and bleeding finger nails, except the door is open the only thing keeping you there is your preoccupation with counting your time spent in the cell. Calling this "content" is a bit much. You're locked out of one item, an item which will be easier at some unknown point in time, an item which has a comparable items that are also obtainable through different means. I am literally farming this out because I like the way it looks, I've done harder farms for vanity gear in the past and I'll do harder ones in the future. If you hate farming don't do this grind. A game having RNG is not some personal attack on you, the contrary actually you guys are attacking RNG because you're preoccupied with what you're unable to get. Just let it go.

[LilithPaige]

I don't know how you're so unlucky, but assuming because it took you 338 FATEs over a weekend marathon session that it would take you the same amount if you were doing a few fates per day is just completely wrong. I mean how much time exactly did the FATEs taken anyway? I always see complaints on number of FATEs or time spent farming, but no one ever mentions both. It's almost like they go out of their way to pick the number that sounds worse.

That is 338 FATES over the course of two weeks and STILL no ATMA, which means that i have to do more.... This is just ONE atma in one area.... It shouldn't be possible to do that many FATES in one area and still not receive an ATMA, I know I am unlucky, but still.

[lordparanoia]

nobody is saying "we are working to adjsut it" just because SE maybe doesn't see the problem and think that in 1 or 2 months we'll stop complaining about it.
But they're wrong, cause in 2 months many people won't pay the subscription again.
I think they're making a big mistake ignoring us. The worst thing ever. And I feel like they're making fun of our intelligence and our patience.

[Ilitsa]

Awe, I was hoping to lighten the mood with the determination stat joke. Anyways, I'm up to 7 now, seems like I get them faster if I grind them a couple hours and then take a break and do some Duty Finder or play something else for a little while and then come back to it again. Maybe that's the key to this all? Don't grind your eyes out on FATEs, just take it easy and do other things here and there.

[Kret]

I don't understand, at first, people complained that relics were way too easy to get and to power up, now everyone's complaining that it takes too long, not that it's too hard, but too long to get. If they're were easy to obtain then it would seem people would just farm them quickly, have nothing else to do and complain about that. It's a never ending cycle. I say just be happy with what we have.

The whole community is never going to be 100% happy with all content. Hopefully they are working hard on more great content and don't have time for any of this cry baby crap... Go SE!

[moudoka]

47 FATEs and counting, no drops. Yes, this is so much fun. No, it's not. It's an extremely poorly implemented quest, with extremely poor drop rates. It's the worst form of grinding, where you have to level down on 90% of the FATEs just to do them. I didn't work my way to 50, only to run around as a level 12 again. It would be okay if I could earn ATMAs on other classes, that actually get XP from the FATEs. But as it is, I get NOTHING but a small token amount of gil. That...is a complete waste of time. The ATMA shouldn't be a super easy quest, but it shouldn't be this shoddy. Very, very disappointed if this is the best method they can come up with to do quests. I will end up cancelling my subscription if this is the new norm.

[Worm]

If it's not fun stop doing it. It's certainly not a very interesting grind, but you know what your problem is the time, and even if it was an interesting story driven grind you'd be just as upset that it took too much time. Just take breaks when you get frustrated, I don't believe I have to explain such basic gaming stuff to people. It's just amazing to see you guys buzzwording so hard, your flimsy arguments could be used to say DMC shouldn't have a Dante Must Die difficulty because it's not "fun".

I actually have been kind of preoccupied with grinding it and I'm enjoying myself. It would have been nice if it was something exclusive for the Atma rather than Fates, but a change like that wouldn't please any of you so there's no real point in bringing it up. I don't understand why everyone is so insistent on getting this changed. You'd think you're actually being wronged or abused somehow, you'll have it in a couple of weeks, chill out.

[skooma_dealer]

your flimsy arguments could be used to say DMC shouldn't have a Dante Must Die difficulty because it's not "fun".

Oh boy. You are completely wrong with this example. DMD was fun and challenging, ATMA has nothing to do with this.

[Empressia]

Why is the community being ignored about the ATMA drop rates? There working as attended why not come out and say guys they work like we want? They just trying to sweep us under the rug? Whats going on? I getting Dajvu ... this is like Guildwars 2 All over again. There a reason I never buy another Arena.net product


up to 124 fates in North Shroud over 3 days no drop... getting extremely frustrated and tired.

FAIL TROLL -10/10 cuz everyone who really played GW2 knew failing a DE or FATE equivalent rather than finishing it gave u MOAR rewards and thus peeps abused farming em, unless u stated that failing a FATE here instantly gives u atma hence MOAR rewards and peeps have all relic atmas for free!

[Worm]

Oh boy. You are completely wrong with this example. DMD was fun and challenging, ATMA has nothing to do with this.

Oh okay, objectively state what made DMD fun. Explain it in such a way where no person in the world could get frustrated with it and declare it 'unfun'. Grinding (or the lottery) may not be intrinsically fun, but getting your drop (or winning money) is fun. The idea that the second a game frustrates one person or some person stops enjoying it that it's now objectively unfun and must be changed, is ludicrous. It's just a crazy way to think, that the second you don't enjoy something it ought to be removed or modified so you personally can begin to enjoy it.

If you knew someone who played DMD difficulty and got upset, but just kept playing it, bitterly making himself hate the game slowly, what would you think? What would you tell that person? Would you tell him to complain on forums, hold candlelight vigils, rabble-rouse more and more and more until there was a new version release where the difficulty of DMD was scaled down? Or would you just suggest he drop the difficulty or stop playing? That's how I view all these threads, personally. People are making themselves hate the game doing content they dislike, they're grinding for longer than they are emotionally able to do and getting upset. They feel desperately wronged because they couldn't just traipse in and get a low drop rate item in a matter of minutes.

You'll have these drops eventually, just don't burn yourself out and always farm with groups. Or alternatively just wait for it to get nerfed.