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  1. #2281
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    The Allagan Cuirass has a 1.937 heavier weight than the Wyrms Mail, which is quite a lot considering the Wyrms Mail is such a strong piece.

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    That's too much SS we'll be pumping into our gear. With the Liberato/Pre-T9 accuracy, well be near 493/4 SS @ the T5 accuracy. If we put a Wolfram Helmet on, that's now 511/512.

    I know nothing about crafted gear, or their melds. But if you or someone could get me the exact stats for a Max Penta-Melded Wolfram Helm, I'll chuck it in my solver and see what sets it comes out with.
    How does weight affect us? So you are saying stick with myth body over allagan body?
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    Are you 100% positive you can reach those melds with that helmet? If so, I might purchase one and start messing around with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Are you 100% positive you can reach those melds with that helmet? If so, I might purchase one and start messing around with it.
    I own one ^^. But yeah just do the math yourself to get some peice of mind. You get 5 melds. 2 of which are free (ie. not over melds)

    Savage Might IV = +6 DET
    Savage Aim IV = +9 CRIT
    Heavens Eye IV = +9 ACC
    Savage Aim III = +6 ACC

    It's potentially expensive, but possible.

    [EDIT^2]
    Could you post what weights you are using and/or verify the following below:
    Weapon Damage 8.732
    Strength 1
    Determination 0.325
    Critical Hit Rating 0.204
    Skill Speed 0.178

    [EDIT]
    On i90 Disciples of War Helmets, Hands, and Feet you get the following stat caps:
    21 Skill Speed, Critical Hit and Accuracy
    15 Determination
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    Last edited by AugustusSB; 04-18-2014 at 04:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VaShawn View Post
    How does weight affect us? So you are saying stick with myth body over allagan body?
    Stat Weight, not literally, heavier :P

    Sorry, I also messed up the weights slightly. If we compare Weathered Astrum Mail, Astrum Mail and High Allagan Cuirass with the Wyrms Mail, we can see:

    High Allagan Cuirass has +11.102 weight more than Wyrms Mail
    Suit of Astrum Mail has + 2.141 weight more than Wyrms Mail
    Weathered Astrum Mail has -3.393 weight less than Wyrms Mail.

    That's for 0 accuracy, remember that. The Weathered Astrum Mail, because of it's high accuracy however, can give you an OVERALL higher set-weight, as you can put in other pieces with 0 accuracy to meet the caps. Of course, that's down to the current pieces of gear you have.

    Second you get that High Allagan Cuirass, wear it.

    Quote Originally Posted by AugustusSB View Post
    I own one ^^. But yeah just do the math yourself to get some peice of mind.
    And Augustus, I'm sure that Crafted Gear has meld caps? So that 15 Crit on HQ wouldn't go above 16? Otherwise, with those exact stats you posted, it does show the Wolfram Mask in-slot for 496 accuracy BiS. But.. We get the following SS:

    BiS - 460
    Pre-T9 w/o Chest - 504
    Pre-T9 w/o Belt - 542
    PreT9 w/o Either - 542

    That's stupidly high. That's a 48+ SS set boost.

    542 SS = 2.31 GDC
    542 SS + Selene = 704.6 SS = 2.15 GDC

    Ye. That's us running out of TP in 2 minutes. That's scarily impressive. I might buy one.
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    Last edited by Dervy; 04-18-2014 at 04:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    And Augustus, I'm sure that Crafted Gear has meld caps? So that 15 Crit on HQ wouldn't go above 16? Otherwise, with those exact stats you posted, it does show the Wolfram Mask in-slot for 496 accuracy BiS. But.. We get the following SS:
    16 is the secondary stat cap for ilvl90 belts and something else, i forget, theres a great article on these boards (not this specific one) that breaks it down. It covers stats such as skill speed, critical hit rating and accuracy. Only determination is different with a cap at 11 (i'm sure you've seen this)

    21 is the secondary stat cap for ilvl90 helmets, hands, and feet. Determination here is capped at 15.

    This is also why i90 body and legs are useless until we get grade V materia because we can not come close to stat capping with only 5 grade IV or below materia. [EDIT] it is much higher with my guess (i never looked this one up personally myself but based on i90 gear) is 34 for secondary stats aside from determination which is probably 24.
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    Thanks for that piece Learn something new every day.

    I'm tempted to purchase a HQ Wolfram Mask. Shame they're 1.1m on my server atm. You don't need someone with 390 control or w/e to Meld onto it do you?
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    Last edited by Dervy; 04-18-2014 at 07:02 AM.

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    Guys I got allagan chest and legs currently. I got 1000 sols. Which I should replace first? I am already over 500 acc with rest of gear(ilvl 91)
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    Astrum Hose is #1 purchase.

    For your next purchase:
    If you're working on T6+ and you have Allagan Boots of Maiming (T5), purchase Weathered Gloam Ring.
    If you're working on T6+ and you do not have Allagan Boots of Maiming (T5), purchase Weathered Astrum Sabatons.

    If you've not killed T5 yet/working on it for whatever reason, get Weathered Gloam Ring.

    But, you're still running with i70 accessories. Upgrade them to i90 through Coil Farming, or upgrade them through Soldiery, AFTER Astrum Hose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Astrum Hose is #1 purchase.

    For your next purchase:
    If you're working on T6+ and you have Allagan Boots of Maiming (T5), purchase Weathered Gloam Ring.
    If you're working on T6+ and you do not have Allagan Boots of Maiming (T5), purchase Weathered Astrum Sabatons.


    If you've not killed T5 yet/working on it for whatever reason, get Weathered Gloam Ring.

    But, you're still running with i70 accessories. Upgrade them to i90 through Coil Farming, or upgrade them through Soldiery, AFTER Astrum Hose.
    I have all i90 items on both sides(mixed allagan/myth) but I just farmed turn 1 and 2 and got everything for drg. My fc is just now training for turn 4(first coil). I want to be best equipped for training. Atma weapon equipped as well. After hose, which ring I replace with gloam ring? Allagan striker or hero slaying?
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    Then Weathered Astrum Hose, Weathered Astrum Gauntlets or Weathered Gloam Ring would be good purchases.
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