Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[AugustusSB]

I think it should be noted for the BiS lists, that they are not accurate unless you factor in the Wolfram Mask (crafted i90 head piece) melded a certain way. If you meld it right you can max determination and crit/ss and get +9 acc or, max crit/ss and have 12/15 det and have +18acc.

Both of which is significantly better than high allagan and astrum. The only advantage high allagan/astrum have is the +vit. So you would be sacrificing a little hp for more dps, something i'm sure a considerable amount of players would be willing to do.

[PArcher]

I've been looking into the Coil2 loot lists, and I have a bad feeling DRG got the short stick with loot; I'm sure we have belt and body in T9

[Dervy]

So allagan cuirass better than myth chest for coil runs and dungeons??

With 768 sols I'm debating on getting the sol chest or replace my dark light ring with sol ring later this week?

The Allagan Cuirass has a 1.937 heavier weight than the Wyrms Mail, which is quite a lot considering the Wyrms Mail is such a strong piece.

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I think it should be noted for the BiS lists, that they are not accurate unless you factor in the Wolfram Mask (crafted i90 head piece) melded a certain way. If you meld it right you can max determination and crit/ss and get +9 acc or, max crit/ss and have 12/15 det and have +18acc.

That's too much SS we'll be pumping into our gear. With the Liberato/Pre-T9 accuracy, well be near 493/4 SS @ the T5 accuracy. If we put a Wolfram Helmet on, that's now 511/512.

I know nothing about crafted gear, or their melds. But if you or someone could get me the exact stats for a Max Penta-Melded Wolfram Helm, I'll chuck it in my solver and see what sets it comes out with.

[NightReach]

I've been looking into the Coil2 loot lists, and I have a bad feeling DRG got the short stick with loot; I'm sure we have belt and body in T9

Alot of important pieces for DRG comes in later turns. We have 6-8 on farm, and we havent seen a single DRG left side, while our mnk is i104 =/

[PArcher]

Alot of important pieces for DRG comes in later turns. We have 6-8 on farm, and we havent seen a single DRG left side, while our mnk is i104 =/

Well, the left-side BiS Allagan pieces are Head (T8) and Belt (T9); the Hands (T6), Feet (T7), Legs (T8) and Body (T9) are looking like good stop-gaps til you can get all the Sands to get the Astrum Body, Legs, Feet and Hands upgraded (and Liberator unless you get really lucky with T9...5 Sands...that's a ton of clears). Good news is the right-side is all Allagan (all drop 6-8 too), so only one Oil is needed for the Ring...

I'm using the 496 acc T9 BiS BTW...

[JetBrooks]

I think it should be noted for the BiS lists, that they are not accurate unless you factor in the Wolfram Mask (crafted i90 head piece) melded a certain way. If you meld it right you can max determination and crit/ss and get +9 acc or, max crit/ss and have 12/15 det and have +18acc.

Both of which is significantly better than high allagan and astrum. The only advantage high allagan/astrum have is the +vit. So you would be sacrificing a little hp for more dps, something i'm sure a considerable amount of players would be willing to do.

The added secondary stats outweigh the main stat increase on items that are 20ilvl higher????

[pompey_dan]

I think the crafted belt is the main one to consider. It can cap all secondary stats including accuracy.
This is a perfectly melded one for example:
STR 13
SS 16
CRT 16
ACC 16
DET 11
however it requires 4x tier IV melds with only 1 of them being guaranteed and a tier II last.

To make it alot cheaper you can meld it with 2x tier IV 2x tier III and a tier II det which is what I have done giving:
STR 13
SS 16
CRT 15
ACC 15
DET 11

[Riotpersona]

I think it should be noted for the BiS lists, that they are not accurate unless you factor in the Wolfram Mask (crafted i90 head piece) melded a certain way. If you meld it right you can max determination and crit/ss and get +9 acc or, max crit/ss and have 12/15 det and have +18acc.

Both of which is significantly better than high allagan and astrum. The only advantage high allagan/astrum have is the +vit. So you would be sacrificing a little hp for more dps, something i'm sure a considerable amount of players would be willing to do.

I don't know if I would say a difference of about 3 weighted STR is significantly better, especially when you consider what we lose on other pieces to make up for that accuracy drop (and as Dervy mentioned, another huge lump of SS being added ontop of an already extremely bloated SS total).

[AugustusSB]

The Allagan Cuirass has a 1.937 heavier weight than the Wyrms Mail, which is quite a lot considering the Wyrms Mail is such a strong piece.
I know nothing about crafted gear, or their melds. But if you or someone could get me the exact stats for a Max Penta-Melded Wolfram Helm, I'll chuck it in my solver and see what sets it comes out with.

I do agree about the multitude of skill speed, but what can you say; for some reason SE thinks it is nice to put SS on almost every piece of our gear.

That aside I'll show you some numbers; I already have all 3 (high allagan, astrum, and crafted i90) in my solver.

[EDIT]
Name Strength Determination Critical Hit Rating Skill Speed Accuracy Vitality Weight
High Allagan 24 0 18 0 25 28 27.672
Astrum 24 0 0 25 18 28 28.45
Wolfram 18 12 21 21 18 20 29.922

Wolfram Mask starts out with: 18 STR 0 DET 15 CRIT 21 SS 0 ACC 20 VIT

2 Savage Might IVs, 1 Savage Aim III, and 2 Heaven's Eye IV will bring you to 18 STR 12 DET 21 CRIT 21 SS 18 ACC 20 VIT
With the above meld, you are 2.25 weight above High Allagan and 7ACC below it
and you are also 1.472 above Astrum while at the same ACC.


You could also do the following melds:
2 Savage Might IVs, 1 Savage Might III, 1 Savage Aim III, 1 Heaven's Eye IV to get you 18 STR 15 DET 21 CRIT 21 SS 9 ACC 20 VIT
With this meld you sacrifice 9 ACC for 0.975 DPS weight to bring your crafted helm to its' max weight of 30.897

With the above meld, you are 3.225 weight above High Allagan and 16ACC below it
and you are also 2.447 above Astrum while 9ACC below it

The best part about the Wolfram Mask(crafted i90) is you can get it right now. ^^

[AugustusSB]

I think the crafted belt is the main one to consider. It can cap all secondary stats including accuracy.
This is a perfectly melded one for example:
STR 13
SS 16
CRT 16
ACC 16
DET 11
however it requires 4x tier IV melds with only 1 of them being guaranteed and a tier II last.

To make it alot cheaper you can meld it with 2x tier IV 2x tier III and a tier II det which is what I have done giving:
STR 13
SS 16
CRT 15
ACC 15
DET 11

I support this, and have done the same thing as you except my CRIT, DET, and SS are capped while ACC is at 15/16 so (Heaven's Eye IV and III instead of 2 IVs)