The reason Summoner needs revamp threads keep popping up

[Ricdeau]

This is the reason players can't have nice things in a MMO because players say this is what the developer wants so suck it up. In MMOs developers have control over the overall presentation and design while players have a say in features, quality of life, character progression and class/job design.

But what you're asking for is a redesign of a class that's already well established in the game now. You would alienating the playerbase more than not. Outright changing a class from it's initial design just does not go over well. It has nothing to with you sucking it up it has far more to do with polarizing your playerbase. If there was such a massive negative reaction to SMN then SE would have acknowledged it by now, and the simple fact that they have not would point to the dissatisfied playerbase is largely the minority. No game is ever going to completely satisfy it's playerbase, but you try to please the majority.

For example lets look back at 2.1. SE addressed some major design issues with melee and warriors because of extreme negative reaction. However, none of these changes came at the cost of totally revamping anything. The tools present were modified. If you are going to keep asking for changes and such at least be realistic. A total revamp isn't happening.

[Jediman]

But what you're asking for is a redesign of a class that's already well established in the game now. You would alienating the playerbase more than not. Outright changing a class from it's initial design just does not go over well. It has nothing to with you sucking it up it has far more to do with polarizing your playerbase. If there was such a massive negative reaction to SMN then SE would have acknowledged it by now, and the simple fact that they have not would point to the dissatisfied playerbase is largely the minority. No game is ever going to completely satisfy it's playerbase, but you try to please the majority.

For example lets look back at 2.1. SE addressed some major design issues with melee and warriors because of extreme negative reaction. However, none of these changes came at the cost of totally revamping anything. The tools present were modified. If you are going to keep asking for changes and such at least be realistic. A total revamp isn't happening.

We can never know till SE pulls out the stats for players playing the jobs :P (i know they did that for final fantasy XI)
Once that is done then we can be sure about the class.

but total remap of the game went ahead lol (and we are talking about the class here)