The reason Summoner needs revamp threads keep popping up

[Akiza]

Summoners use arcane magic.

Summoner's use Summoning Magic according to their character job description throughout all Final Fantasy titles even the name Summoner implies their main source of power is Summoning Magic. and Arcanist's use Arcane Magic which is a renamed Green Mage. Either way Square can't get around the fact that the Summoner is a Green Mage with a pet and not a Summoner Job. Anyways the base class for Summoner should be an Evoker and Thaumaturge and current Summoner's should be renamed Green Mages which will solve the problem of the Summoner Job not being an actual Summoner.

[Jediman]

Summoner's use Summoning Magic according to their character job description throughout all Final Fantasy titles even the name Summoner implies their main source of power is Summoning Magic. and Arcanist's use Arcane Magic which is a renamed Green Mage. Either way Square can't get around the fact that the Summoner is a Green Mage with a pet and not a Summoner Job. Anyways the base class for Summoner should be an Evoker and Thaumaturge and current Summoner's should be renamed Green Mages which will solve the problem of the Summoner Job not being an actual Summoner.

Its fine the developers are working on the future Egi http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...atar-Egi/page3

Most of the summoner have left i believe or don't even look into it now there was all ready a discussion regarding the size of the egi, So I can't make a thread next week since they are working on it just waiting for the future egi lol

Please stop.

Rather then following him around the thread I think you should look around regarding summoners complaint show him what the Mods have said regarding it

We discussed your feedback about the design of the egi with the development team. As was mentioned previously during the Beta test, the design planner reiterated that egi were designed to be a manifestation of a percentage of power taken from the primals and are intentionally designed to appear differently from the primal. As such, we aren't planning on changing the look of egi at higher levels.

We will however continue to take in your feedback when creating new egi that will be added in the future.

Case closed

[AmyNeudaiz]

Summoner's use Summoning Magic according to their character job description throughout all Final Fantasy titles even the name Summoner implies their main source of power is Summoning Magic. and Arcanist's use Arcane Magic which is a renamed Green Mage. Either way Square can't get around the fact that the Summoner is a Green Mage with a pet and not a Summoner Job. Anyways the base class for Summoner should be an Evoker and Thaumaturge and current Summoner's should be renamed Green Mages which will solve the problem of the Summoner Job not being an actual Summoner.

Read up on your lore ffs your ignorance is mind numbing

[Akiza]

I've already established Summoner's use Summoning Magic it's a simple concept the type of Magic base they use is in their name like the Black Mage using Black Magic or the White Mage using White Magic. If the developers want to make an actual Summoner Job it has to use Summoning Magic as it's base if not then it's not a Summoner it's a Green Mage Job because they mainly inflict negative status effects.

[Eardstapa]

Straight from the FF14 lore, but of course, you won't understand or yield due to your biased opinion on how Summoner 'has' to be...

"Known simply as summoners, the existence of these men and women and their arcane art have been all but lost to the ages."

[MercuryD]

The problem with the Summoner is it's not a Summoning Magic Job it's a Disease Magic Job.
Black Mage's use Black Magic
Whit Mage's use White Magic
Summoner's use Summoning Magic
Summoner's should summon all elemental damage by summoning storms such as fire storm, thunder storm, blizzard storm and tornados. Also we should be able to summon Primals cause unlike Beast Tribes who have a High Priest instead of a Summoner they have to use the summoning ritual to call forth Primals while Summoner's who use summoning magic can summon Primals without the ritual.

BLM is Thaumaturgy/Black magic.
WHM is conjury/white magic.
SMN uses Arcanima/Summoning.

Summoner's use Summoning Magic according to their character job description throughout all Final Fantasy titles even the name Summoner implies their main source of power is Summoning Magic. and Arcanist's use Arcane Magic which is a renamed Green Mage. Either way Square can't get around the fact that the Summoner is a Green Mage with a pet and not a Summoner Job. Anyways the base class for Summoner should be an Evoker and Thaumaturge and current Summoner's should be renamed Green Mages which will solve the problem of the Summoner Job not being an actual Summoner.

Pay attention to THIS game's lore please. A few things, there is very little actual distinction between the different classes of magic in this game. They are all, at their core, the same: they manipulate aether to cause effects.
THM and BLM use thaumaturgy, i.e. they use their personal aether to cast. BLM instead pull aether from the Void as well, allowing their spells to be more destructive.
CNJ and WHM use conjury, i.e they use the aether of their environment to cast. WHM –takes- the aether, while conjurors will first ask for it.
ACN and SMN both channel aether by using glyphs and symbols to cast. SMN is more complicated than either BLM or WHM but the premise is the same. SMN use the captured aether of a primal in order to summon an avatar of that primal; Arcanists use crystals and gems to summon Carbuncles. The DoTs are, admittedly, not tied to the summoning but are still tied to channeling (watch the animation next time you cast Bio II, Miasma or Ruin)
For summoner to act the way it has in the past would have to be likened to summoning Ifrit's head through a floating glyph to use his flame breath and we would NOT have access to Inferno/Earthen Fury/Aerial Blast because we cannot control the primal (which you seem to think we can).

tl;dr Learn THIS GAME'S LORE. Every FF has its own and they are all unique.

[Madoka]

A post of you quoting 10 people is far from "the community all wants change"

SMN is an established class, the Lore of XIV does not allow for what you want, and your heads are too far up your asses to comprehend this. Not to mention compared to the few quotes you have there, there's far more people telling you the opposite in every single thread created.

This is Final Fantasy XIV. Not Final Fantasy III, not IV, not V, not IX, not X and not XI. You might also notice that summoners act differently in every single one of these games, holy shit.

[Akiza]

A post of you quoting 10 people is far from "the community all wants change"

SMN is an established class, the Lore of XIV does not allow for what you want, and your heads are too far up your asses to comprehend this. Not to mention compared to the few quotes you have there, there's far more people telling you the opposite in every single thread created.

This is Final Fantasy XIV. Not Final Fantasy III, not IV, not V, not IX, not X and not XI. You might also notice that summoners act differently in every single one of these games, holy shit.

That's cause this is the 1st time the Summoner is it's own job and the thing that all Final Fantasy titles have in common is the character jobs stay the same the world and the lore changes but the job lore never changes that's what they did to the Summoner in this game this would be akin to turning a Black Mage into A Water Magic user and still calling it a Black Mage.

[AmyNeudaiz]

That's cause this is the 1st time the Summoner is it's own job and the thing that all Final Fantasy titles have in common is the character jobs stay the same the world and the lore changes but the job lore never changes.

You are incorrect. Please just stop

[Jediman]

A post of you quoting 10 people is far from "the community all wants change"

SMN is an established class, the Lore of XIV does not allow for what you want, and your heads are too far up your asses to comprehend this. Not to mention compared to the few quotes you have there, there's far more people telling you the opposite in every single thread created.

This is Final Fantasy XIV. Not Final Fantasy III, not IV, not V, not IX, not X and not XI. You might also notice that summoners act differently in every single one of these games, holy shit.

Did you say 10 but missed out the 27 pages in here lol http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...TION%29/page27

Dev already confirmed they are going to work on the future egi. Final fantasy XIV is base on final fantasy series games class names,chocobo,avater names etc I can give a full list what they have added from other final fantasy series games only a fool like you won't understand try to read up more rather then attacking someone that opens a thread because of there class.

You just don't understand that dev have spoken yet you bark like a sheep and can't comprehend what you are saying you want "likes" I can give you but it won't change what the dev have said tho.