Is a Parser ever comming?

[Ikeda]

The simple fact is the game is overly easy as it is, the community's already toxic enough because of the self centered WoW crowd the solo leveling and duty finder attracts. We don't need parsers to make it radioactive. No matter how much you scream "it's for self improvement" either the majority or the most noticeable amount of people just use it to harass people. This is also a repeat thread and Yoshi already said a long time ago he can't officially condone parsers because that would open the doors for other much worse 3rd party programs and because it's against the ToS. So again I say /thread.

[Raenryong]

The simple fact is the game is overly easy as it is, the community's already toxic enough because of the self centered WoW crowd the solo leveling and duty finder attracts. We don't need parsers to make it radioactive. No matter how much you scream "it's for self improvement" either the majority or the most noticeable amount of people just use it to harass people. This is also a repeat thread and Yoshi already said a long time ago he can't officially condone parsers because that would open the doors for other much worse 3rd party programs and because it's against the ToS. So again I say /thread.

I've been in games where parsing is commonplace and haven't seen this toxicity. Unless you count kicking bad players from premade groups which require high dps as toxic.

[ispano]

The simple fact is the game is overly easy as it is, the community's already toxic enough because of the self centered WoW crowd the solo leveling and duty finder attracts. We don't need parsers to make it radioactive. No matter how much you scream "it's for self improvement" either the majority or the most noticeable amount of people just use it to harass people. This is also a repeat thread and Yoshi already said a long time ago he can't officially condone parsers because that would open the doors for other much worse 3rd party programs and because it's against the ToS. So again I say /thread.

And the problem with this comment is how few people have actually done the "hard" content in this game. How many groups have actually cleared T5? So while yes, this game is easy compared to some, even the end game content, players who are capable of clearing said content are a much smaller group.

[Ikeda]

And the problem with this comment is how few people have actually done the "hard" content in this game. How many groups have actually cleared T5? So while yes, this game is easy compared to some, even the end game content, players who are capable of clearing said content are a much smaller group.

Which brings up the point of the toxic community. Party finder groups requiring ilvls that's overkill for whichever extreme fight or dungeon they're doing because they're so "pro" they want to be carried by higher gear than what's necessary, "clear checks" because the people that have done the content have no patience for other people to learn the content so they le gasp actually have more people they can do the content with. There's probably a few others I missed. If you think it's bad now imagine if parsers were legal.

How would an official addon parser be an illegal 3rd party program, nevermind you don't care to read even the title of the thread.

You obviously blame WoW. An official self-parser adds nothing toxic to the community.

If it were a self parser that's one thing. But that's not really what most of the people in this thread are begging for.

Also yes I do blame WoW. WoW has been the biggest plague of the mmo industry ever since its first expansion. Causing countless failed P2P mmos that tried to copy it too much without realizing the real reason for its success. The same way CoD has been a plague on non-mmos.

[ispano]

Which brings up the point of the toxic community. Party finder groups requiring ilvls that's overkill for whichever extreme fight or dungeon they're doing because they're so "pro" they want to be carried by higher gear than what's necessary, "clear checks" because the people that have done the content have no patience for other people to learn the content so they le gasp actually have more people they can do the content with. There's probably a few others I missed. If you think it's bad now imagine if parsers were legal.

Since you cannot tell how skilled a player is, the only thing you can use is ilvl. And if they meet the ilvl but still can't cut it, you remove them. Also, you're right, some of them have no patience because they've already taught a large number of people, whether they actually learned or not, that they just want the content done. Why should they be required to constantly teach people, when a fair amount of them don't put in the effort to learn and improve? Key here is constantly. That's what they would end up having to do.

This is NOT "toxic"(Which isn't the right term to use anyway)

[Massterchef]

If you think it's bad now imagine if parsers were legal.

I'm pretty sure majority of the people that used parsers prior to the announcement, still use them regardless of illegality. A parser is still the best overall method to evaluate yours/others performance. If you are concerned and troubled about people removing you from groups due to low numbers, then you shouldn't be running with these people in the first place.

If you don't like or want to run with people you discern to be elitist, then why does their availability to a parser make a difference when you're ideally wanting to avoid them?

[ItzKris]

Point A: I'm pretty sure majority of the people that used parsers prior to the announcement, still use them regardless of illegality.

Point B: If you don't like or want to run with people you discern to be elitist, then why does their availability to a parser make a difference when you're ideally wanting to avoid them?

For point A, your right people are still using parsers. But the only way you can get caught using one is if you tell someone they suck.
For point B, there's duty finder that matches you with random people and not "like-minded individuals". Party finder is for like-minded people when people state "Kill party, experienced only. Must have already beat before".

Just wait for addons though, then parsers will be included. They were already overdue so they shouldn't be long.

[ReplicaX]

The simple fact is the game is overly easy as it is, the community's already toxic enough because of the self centered WoW crowd the solo leveling and duty finder attracts. We don't need parsers to make it radioactive.

How would an official addon parser be an illegal 3rd party program, nevermind you don't care to read even the title of the thread.

You obviously blame WoW. An official self-parser adds nothing toxic to the community.