Is a Parser ever comming?

[Raxion]

If people don't want to improve, don't want to work(I said work, not a job, they're not the same thing) for a win on a particular piece of content, i'm ok with that. It's not for them, I get it. The problem arises when said people want to finish said content before it gets nerfed, yet refuse to improve to do so. So they either get carried, or help cause wipes. This is just as bad as the people who harass others over dps, just on the other side of the coin. Yet these people are still around, still causing issues in groups, all the time.

This is exactly why they end up getting harassed, I think. When doing group content, it's a given that everyone is expected to pull their own weight in the group. All a parser does is make it known who is and isn't pulling their weight. Those that find themselves afraid of the implementation of a parser are usually those that don't always pull their own weight in a group.

[BMihawk]

This is exactly why they ..

This. Most of the time people who are afraid of parsers are the one who does the least damage causing groups to fail in DPS checks mechanism. It can be used to improve static dps to look at rotation and stuff. Whenever i parse in a PUG, i will private tell them out of instance to look into their rotation as their DPS is lacking in certain areas. I personally feel its the way people tell the other lacking member about their dps. Instead of shouting in party chat regarding their dps, do it in private so at least you are not embarrassing the person. Implementation of parsers are okay but the way of calling out on someone on party chat should be civilised.

[Raenryong]

With addons, presumably. DPS players should have accountability like anyone else, and if your dps is so consistently lacking that being called out for bad performance is a threat, work on your DPS. Bad tanks get called out and removed; bad healers get called out and removed; why should bad DPS be exempt from pulling their weight? Why is it toxic to expect 3/3 of the trinity to perform rather than 2/3?

[raelgun]

Yes but if you're standing in stuff dying over and over or generally don't know your role, it's kind of more understandable. Getting grief because an add on is telling the user that Player X is doing 2% DPS less than someone else is just stupid.

how are the cases here any different ?, why, please explain to me in detail, how, someone that keeps dying and doesnt help clear a fight, and someone who cant do enough damage, to clear a fight are 2 different things, why should 1 be treated fine over the other, people kick others who constantly die and its pointed out<--- this is deemed fine?, someone who does dps that is below the threshold and is pointed out <-- deemed harassment ?
in both cases the person got kicked for not pulling their weight and let down the group, and the group decided to remove or ask them to leave, the process is the same, they were criticised for their performance and failed to improve. why should 1 be deemed fine but the other as harassment

[Ikeda]

You don't need a freaking parser. There's practically one in the game already. There's aggro numbers by player's names in the party list during combat. If you have a 2 by your name you're either a off tank or doing the most dps and the numbers go down in that order. /thread

[jars]

as long as it counts pets

"juni your dps is low"
"did you count garuda?"
"no"

wonder why!

[ispano]

You don't need a freaking parser. There's practically one in the game already. There's aggro numbers by player's names in the party list during combat. If you have a 2 by your name you're either a off tank or doing the most dps and the numbers go down in that order. /thread

The enmity meter is a poor way to judge overall dps. Especially with enmity reducing abilities, or an undergeared tank, and so on.

[NintenPyjak64]

You don't need a freaking parser. There's practically one in the game already. There's aggro numbers by player's names in the party list during combat. If you have a 2 by your name you're either a off tank or doing the most dps and the numbers go down in that order. /thread

There's moves to drop enmity like Shroud of Saints or Elusive Jump, on top of a skill that reduces generated enmity per attack, Quelling Strikes. The enmity bar is unreliable for looking to see who isn't and is pulling weight, unless they're the tank and aren't generating enough enmity to hold hate. Before Echo the required DPS in T4 for Dreadnaughts was 200-220 DPS, That enmity bar won't tell you "This person is doing X DPS and this person's doing Y DPS" Let's say a terrible player is spamming the ever living hell out of their skills, using them in such a fashion that they're losing massive DPS generates as much enmity as a player who has a perfect rotation, but used Quelling Strikes. Would you say the player who used Quelling is a bad player or the terrible player is actually a good player?

They generate just as much enmity as the same amount of damage from another source. The problem is that the combat log doesn't record DoT damage.

Rephrasing the point I'm trying to get across. (please don't look at this as an attack to you)

[ispano]

Summoner doesn't have that luxury since DoTs don't generate that much enmity, plus there's moves to drop enmity like Shroud of Saints or Elusive Jump, on top of a skill that reduces generated enmity per attack. The enmity bar is unreliable for looking to see who isn't and is pulling weight

They generate just as much enmity as the same amount of damage from another source. The problem is that the combat log doesn't record DoT damage.

[Musashidon]

it is a abuse of the system to vote kick someone for being a bad tank a bad healer or a bad dps. please report any player that does this.

but this isn't about abuse of the system this is simply asking if parsers is ever comming.

my answer would be maybe, it's hard to tell we get alot of mixed responses when it comes to add-ons and parsers in general.