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    Quote Originally Posted by TeganLaron View Post
    Think it would be a terrible idea. You see enough people being kicked from groups due to a third party parser as it is, would be ten times worse if every player in the game had access to one.
    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroHigh View Post
    I'm all for it for groups to help improve each other, but sadly, its mostly used as a tool to grief other players.
    Don't need a parser to see players that can't dodge, die, or just cast Fire III all day. < They get grief more from stuff like this that I see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReplicaX View Post
    Don't need a parser to see players that can't dodge, die, or just cast Fire III all day. < They get grief more from stuff like this that I see.
    Yes but if you're standing in stuff dying over and over or generally don't know your role, it's kind of more understandable. Getting grief because an add on is telling the user that Player X is doing 2% DPS less than someone else is just stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeganLaron View Post
    Yes but if you're standing in stuff dying over and over or generally don't know your role, it's kind of more understandable. Getting grief because an add on is telling the user that Player X is doing 2% DPS less than someone else is just stupid.
    And you just pointed out the real problem again, players. That's not the type of player you want to play with anyways. You're not going to change them by not having parsers, not in the slightest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    And you just pointed out the real problem again, players. That's not the type of player you want to play with anyways. You're not going to change them by not having parsers, not in the slightest.
    But by keeping parsers illegal, SE maintains an easy avenue to remove said players from the game; thus preventing further awful game experiences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeganLaron View Post
    Yes but if you're standing in stuff dying over and over or generally don't know your role, it's kind of more understandable. Getting grief because an add on is telling the user that Player X is doing 2% DPS less than someone else is just stupid.
    Which is why I believe in Self-Only Parsers, so these players can visually see their issues and try to correct them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReplicaX View Post
    Which is why I believe in Self-Only Parsers, so these players can visually see their issues and try to correct them.
    I'd be entirely for something like this. I care nothing about others' performance unless it is significant enough to hinder everyone's progress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeganLaron View Post
    Yes but if you're standing in stuff dying over and over or generally don't know your role, it's kind of more understandable. Getting grief because an add on is telling the user that Player X is doing 2% DPS less than someone else is just stupid.
    how are the cases here any different ?, why, please explain to me in detail, how, someone that keeps dying and doesnt help clear a fight, and someone who cant do enough damage, to clear a fight are 2 different things, why should 1 be treated fine over the other, people kick others who constantly die and its pointed out<--- this is deemed fine?, someone who does dps that is below the threshold and is pointed out <-- deemed harassment ?
    in both cases the person got kicked for not pulling their weight and let down the group, and the group decided to remove or ask them to leave, the process is the same, they were criticised for their performance and failed to improve. why should 1 be deemed fine but the other as harassment
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    I'd like to see a parser work it's way into the game eventually. I think it would motivate players to master their jobs for fear of judgement. I'd also like to see how well I do myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raxion View Post
    I think it would motivate players to master their jobs for fear of judgement.
    I don't think that's a good reason, to strike fear into players. We meant to be playing because it's fun.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raxion View Post
    I'd also like to see how well I do myself.
    Admittedly I do think this myself sometimes when I feel I've done particularly well on DPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeganLaron View Post
    I don't think that's a good reason, to strike fear into players. We meant to be playing because it's fun.
    If people don't want to improve, don't want to work(I said work, not a job, they're not the same thing) for a win on a particular piece of content, i'm ok with that. It's not for them, I get it. The problem arises when said people want to finish said content before it gets nerfed, yet refuse to improve to do so. So they either get carried, or help cause wipes. This is just as bad as the people who harass others over dps, just on the other side of the coin. Yet these people are still around, still causing issues in groups, all the time.
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