Feedback Regarding the Relic Upgrade Quest

[Tandy]

I have to say it's amazing to see people so upset over something taking under two weeks. If you're not mentally capable of grinding don't do it.

And its people like you who have no reading comprehension that makes it so hard to get the point across....its not about grinding. Thats not the point at all, go back and re-read or maybe even read the thread before commenting....saves time and makes you look more informed.

[HumsterMKX]

Take down list of White Knights.

[HumsterMKX]

I have to say it's amazing to see people so upset over something taking under two weeks. If you're not mentally capable of grinding don't do it.

It is luck base...grinding actually have a target present. Luck Base = Random. I hardly can say it is same as grinding, for the target is also Randomly exist.

[Nanaya]

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Had similar feelings towards my 12th. After that debacle of a first day, spending myriad hours stubbornly grinding out Outer La Noscea to no avail, I've just been chipping away at it for no more than 2 hours a day, with decent success. But when that Atma of the Archer dropped to my inventory, finishing this, it was exasperation, not exhilaration, that I felt. I mashed Flash like a boss on countless FATEs, getting me gold, why is this somehow an accomplishment? It's lazy design, compounded with drop odds where you'd probably have a better chance winning a game of Russian Roulette with a fully loaded revolver.

And when, what I am going to boldly assume, a sizable amount of the player base feels that way about a game mechanic, you may want to strongly considering revising said mechanic.

[Musashidon]

personally i think they were testing the waters, because after the 12 atma's you get a set thing to do.

3 dungeons

100 monsters

3 leves

and 3 fates.


think they put both in to see what reactions each get. course i could also be wrong XP

[PLD_Danny1989]

Had similar feelings towards my 12th. After that debacle of a first day, spending myriad hours stubbornly grinding out Outer La Noscea to no avail, I've just been chipping away at it for no more than 2 hours a day, with decent success. But when that Atma of the Archer dropped to my inventory, finishing this, it was exasperation, not exhilaration, that I felt. I mashed Flash like a boss on countless FATEs, getting me gold, why is this somehow an accomplishment? It's lazy design, compounded with drop odds where you'd probably have a better chance winning a game of Russian Roulette with a fully loaded revolver.

And when, what I am going to boldly assume, a sizable amount of the player base feels that way about a game mechanic, you may want to strongly considering revising said mechanic.

Remember that GDC slide they had?

The second part on the last slide, Quote:

"2. Fun comes first. If it isn't fun, you're doing it wrong."

End quote.

[LamiaTrucido]

This quest isn't fun.

Please increase the drop rate.

[HumsterMKX]

This quest isn't fun.

Please increase the drop rate.

Lol.... let me put on my shining armour.

4. Don't forget your roots.
FFXI the first FF mmo, is filled with random, grid and low drop rates. Atma FATE went back to the roots.

1. Never forget the fans.
Remember how the fans wanted FFXIV to be more FFXI then WOW? They didn't forget about what the fans wanted!

2. Fun comes first!
It sure did! Watching fan defend them and tearing each other throats out is a great feeling.

3. Never back down.
Aim to amaze they did! Players from both sides are amazed. 1 side is left jumping with joy that random drop rates add to the worth of their virtual items. The other side left in shock, by the randominess.

[Arkista]

So, after 9 days, I finally got all 12 pieces of Atma.

That was not fun in the slightest, when that last piece was dropped, I was on the verge of tears due to immense relief, I feel absolutely no satisfaction over this.

When I get this last Atma in East Shroud I'm going to go crazy! I remember when I got my Toci's Harness (after 500+ Pil) in FFXI, I was at School and when it dropped I yelled "F word YAHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Everyone stopped and looked up, Teacher was like I need to see you after class sir.

This is almost as bad as going for Coruscanti from Qilin, I gave up after 2k+ fights.

[Keyln]

Random Atma dropping from FATEs...

THIS! IS! NOT! FUN!!!