Non-crafters only: Are you happy with the vanity system?

[Lemon8or]

In addition, some people, myself included, think that crafting looks so mind numbingly boring, they have no desire to level 2-4 crafting classes to 50 to be able to make these prisms.

Then buy them. Why is it so hard to understand that if you don't want to or can't make something, you have to trade with others in the form of gil or items for what you want? People QQ about dead market cause nothing the DoW and DoM needs are tradable and now you complain that some people actually make money off of you deciding not to level craft?

I'm currently working on leveling crafts, but that's besides the point really.

Congratulations. You're about to join the side that you hate.

Sure you're not. [/rolls_eyes] And 500 gil per prism? And then they sell them for 5-10K each? Nope. No greed there what so ever.

It's called making a profit. Just like you going into a dungeon for gears. If it weren't for that gear or the enjoyment, would you still go? No. People do something because of the incentives it gives. Profit is the incentive to level DoH. You chose not to and now complain.

I have never ONCE complained about a dead market (and challenge you to find a post where I have), in fact, I could care less how cheap stuff goes for. Allows everyone to be able to buy whatever they want. So, you can take your accusations elsewhere.

I'm saying people in general. I'm not accusing you of anything.

[NorthernLadMSP]

Then buy them. Why is it so hard to understand that if you don't want to or can't make something, you have to trade with others in the form of gil or items for what you want? People QQ about dead market cause nothing the DoW and DoM needs are tradable and now you complain that some people actually make money off of you deciding not to level craft?

Congratulations. You're about to join the side that you hate.

I have never ONCE complained about a dead market (and challenge you to find a post where I have), in fact, I could care less how cheap stuff goes for. Allows everyone to be able to buy whatever they want. So, you can take your accusations elsewhere.

[Versiroth]

Congratulations. You're about to join the side that you hate.

Or, I'll be the first to sell the prisms at cost. The tears of greedy crafters will be all of the payment I'll need.

[Lemon8or]

Or, I'll be the first to sell the prisms at cost. The tears of greedy crafters will be all of the payment I'll need.

Oh don't worry, by the time you get your crafters to 50, most people will already undercut it down below the cost. Then you tell me after all the expensive and time-consuming process (like you claimed) you did to level crafters to 50 where your profit was.

[Versiroth]

Oh don't worry, by the time you get your crafters to 50, most people will already undercut it down below the cost.

One can only hope.

Then you tell me after all the expensive and time-consuming process (like you claimed) you did to level crafters to 50 where your profit was.

Wait, I though you said It was fast and easy, making you tons of gil all the while?

[Lemon8or]

Wait, I though you said It was fast and easy, making you tons of gil all the while?

I was just going off what you said.

You sit in one spot and either quick synth a ton of items (and have some of which fail, wasting your mats) or you sit there and hammer a few buttons while banging your head against your desk to stay awake.

Then it won't be fast and easy for you.

[Versiroth]

I was just going off what you said.

Then it won't be fast and easy for you.

I think you have "fast and easy" and "mind numbingly boring" confused. Besides....

Please, I leveled all craft to 50 before they even tweaked the EXP for leves. It's not hard to do nor take a lot of time to do so. And I made a ton of money leveling them.

You would know better than I, having already leveled them all (and in no time making tons of money to boot!). So, I'll power level them and then sell prisms at cost. The profit will be the people complaining about the crash.

[Lemon8or]

I think you have "fast and easy" and "mind numbingly boring" confused. Besides....

I see that you're an inexperienced crafters so I will say this: There are very fast and indeed easy ways to level your craft but you chose the slow and mind numbingly boring way to progress. If you don't know something, ask in the Disciples of Hand forum and I'm sure other people would help. Don't assume you know everything even though you're inexperienced in the matter. Here's a tip: I got my On the payroll V achievement after I get any of the An eye for details achievements. Now go figure it out yourselves.