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    Player Versiroth's Avatar
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    Non-crafters only: Are you happy with the vanity system?

    I say non-crafters because of course they love it. They're making money hand over fist for a system that is normally introduced to be a fun quality of life addition for everyone. But, thanks to the fact that A) SE decided to implement what is likely the worst vanity system in history and B) crafters are WAY over charging for the prisms, this new addition completely excludes players that aren't rolling in gil.

    Personally.. I've glamoured 5 or 6 things out of the 30 or more I had originally planned to. I simply can't afford to actually use the system fully. Heck, I'd have to do two full CT runs to be able to afford ONE prism in a lot of cases.

    So, personally, I hate this new system. It's way to convoluted and way too expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Versiroth View Post
    I say non-crafters because of course they love it. They're making money hand over fist for a system that is normally introduced to be a fun quality of life addition for everyone. But, thanks to the fact that A) SE decided to implement what is likely the worst vanity system in history and B) crafters are WAY over charging for the prisms, this new addition completely excludes players that aren't rolling in gil.

    Personally.. I've glamoured 5 or 6 things out of the 30 or more I had originally planned to. I simply can't afford to actually use the system fully. Heck, I'd have to do two full CT runs to be able to afford ONE prism in a lot of cases.

    So, personally, I hate this new system. It's way to convoluted and way too expensive.
    If you want to be pretty, you have to pay for it. Beauty has a price, after all.
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    you could always you know... level a crafter? because its not hard to do... like at all.
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    Player Versiroth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterJoint View Post
    you could always you know... level a crafter? because its not hard to do... like at all.
    That's expensive and time consuming in it's own right. I know because I just finished leveling a CUL recently. Plus, thanks to how convoluted this system is, you'd have to level all of the crafting jobs in order to do all of your own glamours.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arkghyom View Post
    If you want to be pretty, you have to pay for it. Beauty has a price, after all.
    Yay, a crafter checks in.....
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    Last edited by Versiroth; 04-04-2014 at 01:53 AM.

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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterJoint View Post
    you could always you know... level a crafter? because its not hard to do... like at all.
    This.

    Leveling a crafter is not hard at all. It just takes a bit of time and understanding how to HQ (or just buy all your leve turn-ins...)

    You're just being lazy and want a hand-out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Versiroth View Post
    That's expensive and time consuming in it's own right. I know because I just finished leveling a CUL recently. Plus, thanks to how convoluted this system is, you'd have to level all of the crafting jobs in order to do all of your own glamours.
    Yay, a crafter checks in.....
    Please, I leveled all craft to 50 before they even tweaked the EXP for leves. It's not hard to do nor take a lot of time to do so. And I made a ton of money leveling them. You can always make friend with a crafter. OMG I have to make friends in an MMO to get stuffs I can't get on my own? What has the world come to? /sarcasm

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    Player Versiroth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    This.

    Leveling a crafter is not hard at all. It just takes a bit of time and understanding how to HQ (or just buy all your leve turn-ins...)

    You're just being lazy and want a hand-out.
    And you're an extremely greedy person. SE were insane to give complete control of a QoL system to people like you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemon8or View Post
    Please, I leveled all craft to 50 before they even tweaked the EXP for leves. It's not hard to do nor take a lot of time to do so. And I made a ton of money leveling them. You can always make friend with a crafter. OMG I have to make friends in an MMO to get stuffs I can't get on my own? What has the world come to? /sarcasm
    And another greedy crafter checks in. You guys need to use some of that gil to learn how to read thread titles.
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    Last edited by Versiroth; 04-04-2014 at 01:58 AM.

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    Well for one, prices will come down. They've already settled here on Hyperion: about 2k per prism, which isn't a bad price, and easily affordable with all the ways to make money anymore.

    As for leveling a crafter, it's actually quite profitable with all the money you get from spamming leve's (which is the best way to level crafting), and if you don't want to level a gathering profession, level LTW first, as you get most of the mats for that through your battle class. Further, make one of your retainers a gathering class, send them on ventures, and you get free, easy mats there as well.


    Yes, the glamour system 'is' a bit convoluted, as 5 ranks per crafting type doesn't really benefit anyone or serve any blatant purpose. They all take the same mats after all. And yes, I'd love to be able to save glamour sets rather then get new prisms to re-glamour if I want to switch back and forth... but overall, it does make the system feel more involved rather then forgettable. It's not something you can take for granted.
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    Last edited by ZephyrAM; 04-04-2014 at 02:07 AM.
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/1556132 ~ Lynia Celeste

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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Versiroth View Post
    And you're an extremely greed person. SE were insane to give complete control of a QoL system to people like you.
    Greedy? Personally, I don't even know how much Prisms are going for on my server; I make them for my friends either for free or for the price of clear prisms (200 gil)

    You are lazy for not leveling a crafter and wanting a hand-out. It costs me maybe 500 gil to make a prism, 200 if I gather all the mats (which I do, since all the mats are for things I craft often, so I have them on hand).
    If people are paying thousands of gil for a prism, its because they feel its a fair price. If they weren't selling at those prices, the price would go down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Versiroth View Post
    That's expensive and time consuming in it's own right.
    Quote Originally Posted by Versiroth View Post
    And another greedy crafter checks in. You guys need to use some of that gil to learn how to read thread titles.
    Wait... so you're saying that it's expensive and time consuming to level a craft, but the moment a crafter wants to earn some of that money back, they're greedy moneygrabbers?
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