Feedback Regarding the Relic Upgrade Quest

[KaiKatzchen]

I am mixed about this, partially because I enjoy it! I am glad that they made something take time, instead of just handing it out left and right. In a way, when they made dungeons a better way to level up jobs, they gimped the Fates. There was no real reason to do them, and with 2.2 they gave Fates a purpose again, which I felt was brilliant on their behalf. It gives players a reason to go out into the world and do something, not just sit in their FC house or in a town popping DF's over and over again.

On the other hand, I know friends who are having very bad luck with drops... personally I am happy if I get one a day. I went with a friend who'd already been doing it for about 3 hours, joined him and got one within 30 min while he was still trying to get one like 2 hours later from the same zone. >.<

But then again I use this time to do other things as well, not just fate grinding for Atma. I work on missions, and if I see a Fate I jump in. I am also using this as a option of leveling my chocobo and spirit bonding, and our leader has been keeping up the 'Man's Best Friend' to help us out with that.

Thus why I am torn, I am actually enjoying it because I'm not just making it about the Atma... but I know friends who are wanting to hurry along and get them, but are having bad luck. Yes maybe a raise in the drop percentage could be done, but I don't see an issue with the way the upgrading of the Relic is done over all.

[Timethiuas]

I think the books is the right way to go. That is progression. Doing random fates and dealing with RNG, not so much.

[Kirko]

I always considered awesome instanced battles kill 100 trash mobs 5 more awesome instanced battles farm x dungeons for marks and a couple others were fine but Fates with very poor drop rates shows nothing to do with skill and in my mind doesnt say hey this is something not everyone will have because they arent as skilled as others its more of hey lets give this to the person who can spend tons of time doing it... (That got lost in translation Im not gonna fix it SE and forum trolls can decipher it my brain is mush from spamming 7 over and over again during fates.)

[Tintizzy]

To whom it may concern,

Regarding the Fate Grind for Atmas. I have received the Atma of the Twins fairly easily. However, After putting in 10 Hours Fate grinding just to try and receive my Second Atma I Have in sense given up the long haul. This was tire some and tedious work which could be spent elsewhere. Now i'm not saying give me the Atmas for free I don't mind some hard work to get what i'm after.

Possible solutions for all and not me.

1. Complete all fates in the area 3 Times if one Atma has not been Presented to you by then, you will then be awarded with one. Kicker all the Fates have to be completed with out leaving the Zone or doing dungeons in between.



2. Increase the RNG to make it feel like we are not wasting time on Fate grinding to the Extreme.



3. or at least allow us to use our lower level Characters to Fate grind after obtaining the Quest with our Zenith weapon, so we may at least get EXP for our Classes and not just our Chocobo Companions.

[Heat]

a friend in FC got all under 5 hours farming, one of them from his first fate.

i spent 3 days and only got 3

[lordparanoia]

I would really appreciate an answer from SE.
Everybody would.

[Thayos]

The lack of an "answer" may be the answer?

Some people are already 12/12... I'm 5/12, even though I went on a seven-hour stretch without a drop.

Overall though, the average drop rate on this for me has been about one atma per three hours, which sounds very reasonable. I'm guessing that's right about where it is overall, because I seem to be right in the middle of how people are progressing.

This is no different than camping LL for Leaping Boots, only there's less standing around and anyone can claim the mob.

[Illya]

My average has been 1 every 6 hours and it's a lot less reasonable for me than it is for you. A random luck based system like this is inherently unfair.

[Aldracity]

Ultimately, I think that the Atma quest was designed as a "casual" way to get nice items. As in, you don't have to spam multi-hour-long raiding sessions (with hours of maintenance behind them!) to get shiny gear, and can instead pile up those 1-hour-per-week stints in order to eventually get something.

Problem is, it seems as though the RNG is far too severe, and it appears as though people are getting jack squat despite hard-grinding the fates for hours on end. That's an issue. I'd suggest multiplying the drop rate by X times, and then requiring X "Atma Shards" in order to piece together the full Atma. It's still RNG and it's still grinding, but it should help reduce the raw RNG dickery at play here. Alternatively, you can have the certainty of "Atma Shards" dropping every time, but the quantity per FATE is randomized to ~1-4 instead of a flat value (because Skinner Box).

[lordparanoia]

Lol guys seriously.
Have u tried to join fates? Often i join when its at 13/15 minutes left and it's already finished