
oh I completely agree, do not get me wrong. I was responding to all the "stop crying over RNG, and just grind it" thinking. I personally equate this FATE grind to chewing glass so that you can visit the mildly hot dentist.At work, I call it persistence....when I was in school I called it that...when I played sports... persistence... when I play a video game: tediousness. =-(
I guess I consider persistence to be anywhere that you believe your dedication will pay off with something that is worth the time invested, that will help you grow as a person. I've never really applied it to entertainment. I certainly am not persistent in watching movies- I walked out of Twilight in the first 15 minutes....I guess I am NOT a "leet" Twihard....


Why do all of the posts say Naoki_Yoshida? lol
Ooooh April 1... those pranksters....
Last edited by ApolloGenX; 04-01-2014 at 12:16 AM.
bah atmas wont drop, its frustrating
Last edited by Warlyx; 04-01-2014 at 12:30 AM.

Done with XIV until they stop with the recycled content.
Love the slow progress and long term goals but enough is enough with stupid FATE system.
Forum : Oh how we hate FATEs --- SE: Here do more FATEs !


I'm inclined to change my opinion. Originally I didn't mind but 76 pages+ shows me that changes can be made. I'm really sorry you're all having such a hard time just trying to be apart of this. Hopefully the dev's will have a change of heart too.
Just saying 6 hours Southern Thanalan no atma and an angry wife
Atma Grinding is only one part of the chain, but honestly I really think we could have done without it.I wanted the new relic quest to be long, grindy and encapsulate many facets of the game.
Hunting logs
Guildhests
Grand Company missions
Crafting
Leves
Primals
A Relic Reborn did this to a certain degree and I expected Zodiac to take it even further. Instead we get mindless FATE zerging? The one feature of the game everybody hates. C'mon SE...
My 2 cents is that, I don't mind very long but I don't like that it's purely RNG for 12 separate zones to kick off the quest. It's just not very fun or rewarding.
Yes totally agree you can get other cool weapons differently too but just referring to how Zodiac weapons are specifically earned. Maybe have other means, like RNG Atma drops in dungeons, or EM trials. Atma drops for non lvl 50s so we can level other characters. Random reward from beast tribe etc...
but keep fates as most efficient way to earn it for those who are willing to do the crazy grind to get it first etc.
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, its frustrating




