'Raids', really?

[Bled]

So, to be clear, you associate WoW with Zerg->loot, yet you claim that you never attached the terms to WoW. You then argue that XIV shouldn't have “raids” because that somehow also implies Zerg->loot. I fail to see how I'm putting words into your mouth at this point. You clearly say that “WoW disease” is Zerg->loot, and that FFXIV shouldn't have anything that's Zerg->loot. The fact is, I've already done more zerging in FFXIV than I ever did in WoW, so I don't see why we shouldn't have raids; especially since, and I hope you agree to this, raid doesn't really mean Zerg->loot. People just think it does.

I also associate DCUO, Diablo, and many other games with ZERG and loot, the word "Raid" i never said is exclusively belonging to only WoW; so comparing only WoW to FFXIV is putting words in my mouth. The WoW disease is more then just ZERG and Loot, there are more factors then that, too many to go into detail in this thread alone. This whole discussion was not about the content of FFXIV's "raid's" it is of the stigma attached to the word "raid". FFXIV instances could be exactly like your normal raid, im sure it will be but the name could at least be changed so this does not happen.

friend: hey man FF XIV has raids now!
1st time player: o yay another ZERG LOOT dungeon game.

[Bled]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/asinine

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asinine means foolish, unintelligent, or silly; stupid. Are you arguing that in your defense that you didn't think the thread was pointless?

pointless means without force, meaning, or relevance. They sound very similar excuse me for jumping to conclusions.

[Reika]

Somebody already made fun of that suggestion

well darn.

[Wolfie]

asinine means foolish, unintelligent, or silly; stupid. Are you arguing that in your defense that you didn't think the thread was pointless?

pointless means without force, meaning, or relevance. They sound very similar excuse me for jumping to conclusions.

No. I think the thread and stigma associated with the terms is stupid. That doesn't make it pointless.

[Morticous]

well darn.

I want to note that you've cursed me and i'm on my way to an exploding heart.

[Viridiana]

This whole discusion was not in the content of a "raid" it is of the stigma attached to the word "raid". FFXIV instances could be exactly like your normal raid, im sure it will be but the name could at least be changed so this does not happen.

friend: hey man FF XIV has raids now!
1st time player: o yay another ZERG LOOT dungeon game.

Friend: Hey, man, XIV has invasions now!
First timer: The hell's an "invasion"?
Friend: Well, you get a bit of story, then you get a bunch of people together and go to this dungeon, which we call an invasion. Then, you clear the dungeon, kill some bosses, and get some cool new items.
First timer: So. . . it's like a raid, but with more plot?

[Reika]

Oh. Since I am limsa-born, I will call it a Plunder... Arrrrr! Uldah folk can call it a Pillage, maybe preceeded by a certain R word.... and Gridanina folk......... maybe a Picnic.

[Reika]

I want to note that you've cursed me and i'm on my way to an exploding heart.

Exploding hearts are fun!

[Morticous]

Im cool with picnic.

[Wolfie]

Friend: Hey, man, XIV has invasions now!
First timer: The hell's an "invasion"?
Friend: Well, you get a bit of story, then you get a bunch of people together and go to this dungeon, which we call an invasion. Then, you clear the dungeon, kill some bosses, and get some cool new items.
First timer: So. . . it's like a raid, but with more plot?

Act II
Written by Wolfie

Friend: NO! WE CALL IT AN INVASION! 'RAID' IS A TERM FOR YOUR EASY MODE WESTERN MMO!
First timer: Uh. Oooo...kay?
Friend: You can come join me and my friends, but don't bring your mediocre westerner terminology in this masterpiece of a game.
First timer: I think I'll pass.