'Raids', really?

[Bled]

So, to be clear, you associate WoW with Zerg->loot, yet you claim that you never attached the terms to WoW. You then argue that XIV shouldn't have “raids” because that somehow also implies Zerg->loot. I fail to see how I'm putting words into your mouth at this point. You clearly say that “WoW disease” is Zerg->loot, and that FFXIV shouldn't have anything that's Zerg->loot. The fact is, I've already done more zerging in FFXIV than I ever did in WoW, so I don't see why we shouldn't have raids; especially since, and I hope you agree to this, raid doesn't really mean Zerg->loot. People just think it does.

I also associate DCUO, Diablo, and many other games with ZERG and loot, the word "Raid" i never said is exclusively belonging to only WoW; so comparing only WoW to FFXIV is putting words in my mouth. The WoW disease is more then just ZERG and Loot, there are more factors then that, too many to go into detail in this thread alone. This whole discussion was not about the content of FFXIV's "raid's" it is of the stigma attached to the word "raid". FFXIV instances could be exactly like your normal raid, im sure it will be but the name could at least be changed so this does not happen.

friend: hey man FF XIV has raids now!
1st time player: o yay another ZERG LOOT dungeon game.