Feedback Regarding the Relic Upgrade Quest

[bokchoykn]

You could just save your tomes for two weeks and get a weapon that's equivalent or better AND upgradeable from there. Go back and do the relic when you're complaining about only logging in on Tuesdays.

That's the plan.

I'm not mad because of items. Unlike most MMO players, my main concern isn't about what items I have in my inventory. I'm more upset about the design philosophy of this game.

MMO's and video games have infinite design space. They could have made the Relic quest chain something incredibly cool and fun but they wasted it on this FATE trash.

[bokchoykn]

your use of generalizations and broad categorizations is ridiculous. the people who are fine with the current atma quest go beyond ffxi veterans. don't make statements unsupported by facts- it disgusts me.

They're "fine" with it. You chose your words very carefully. Why didn't you say "they love it" or "they are having an absolute blast doing it"? Because you know it's not true.

Some people find it acceptable to do something completely mindless and boring if it grants them the satisfaction of an item that not many other people have. Final Fantasy XI was a game that was based on this very concept. What I said was not a generalization. It is a truthful observation on the nature of FFXI.

[bokchoykn]

Sure it is about time, that's all this forums complain about is time " This is a Monday game blah blah" " I log in on Monday, then I have to find something else to do" " No Content" XD

Well, that's certainly not my complaint. You responded to my post, did you not? Well, I don't speak for the others then.

To me, it's not about time. It's about the quality of the content.

FATEs are not fun. They are FILLER content. In fact, I feel dirty using the word "content" to describe them. Does anyone here actually disagree with me and can truthfully say that FATEs are fun and compelling content?

[Starlord]

Well, that's certainly not my complaint. You responded to my post, did you not? Well, I don't speak for the others then.

To me, it's not about time. It's about the quality of the content.

And to me that's exactly what I ( as in my opinion) got. "Quality Content" is subjective. You may think it's trash, when I think it's treasure " One man's trash is another man's treasure" :P

[Blazer]

They're "fine" with it. You chose your words very carefully. Why didn't you say "they love it" or "they are having an absolute blast doing it"? Because you know it's not true.

Some people find it acceptable to do something completely mindless and boring if it grants them the satisfaction of an item that not many other people have. Final Fantasy XI was a game that was based on this very concept. What I said was not a generalization. It is a truthful observation on the nature of FFXI.

I was as hard core as an FFXI vet as they come. The grinding is completely fine to me. What isn't okay is the god damn rng associated with these drops. It's complete bs.

[SendohJin]

And to me that's exactly what I ( as in my opinion) got. "Quality Content" is subjective. You may think it's trash, when I think it's treasure " One man's trash is another man's treasure" :P

i think you're the first one to claim grinding Low Level FATEs at Lv 50 to be treasure.

[SendohJin]

There's a lot to be enjoyed in this content if all you desire is new gear then it's obvious why you ain't finding the time to have fun.

I didn't rush the main scenario but so many people did only to complain about the lack of thereof.

i didn't ask to rush, i only ask for progression over luck. if they want us to clear every FATE in every zone in the game with the Zenith, i'm okay with that. wouldn't exactly like it (because i still think level cap content shouldn't be part of a Lv 50 quest) but i would be okay with it.

low drop rates on top of low level FATEs, that's just terrible.

[Velox]

I mained scholar after it was released and always felt GTB should burn D:<
But I never got my own. It hurts more that I got Atros. The art is awesome but.. but!! C'mon!

Now those were a real grind. Super camped bosses, spawning once in a million years, with.. what was it? .01% drop rate?

GTB card was way too OP for something dropped from the easiest boss. "Ohai, sorry, but here's a card that literally shuts down your entire class so I can lol at you running away" I remember solo'ing it on my wizard. Never got the card to drop though, yea cards had a .01% drop rate, ended up winning it from one of those albums.

[Starlord]

i think you're the first one to claim grinding Low Level FATEs at Lv 50 to be treasure.

I don't like grinding them for EXP. I don't like FATEs as much as the next person does, but if it's for the sake of long lasting content, I can put up with it for now. ( Though there is another way to get the same relic through the books you get with myth tomes, that's the way I will probably go for. The thing here is to have "options" and we have options to do so. 1 way is FATEs the other is getting those 9 books through myth. I am sure both ways of getting the Relic gets you to the same destination in the end.

[Alegis]

Stop crying because there is new content you actually need a little time to earn the reward and not getting it thrown at you like you're a brainless monkey.

Funny, because for the current way you dont need to be more than an brainless monkey.
Run from low lvl FATE to low lvl FATE to spam whatever you have to hit as many mobs as possible before the time runs out .
No brain needed here.

Theres no way you can defend the lazyness of SEs developers here.
They could have made an interesting an difficult questchain, but instead they used an already overused (and because of that, hated) gameplay element.
Its in no way interesting or difficult, in absolutely no way.