Feedback Regarding the Relic Upgrade Quest

[bokchoykn]

To all these idiots defending S-E: TIME IS NOT THE ISSUE

I'm willing to put forth the work and grind it out. Such is the nature of MMO's. You have to spend time and effort in order to achieve your goals. I am prepared to do that.

Sometimes there is frustration and sacrifice along the way to reaching that goal. I can live with that too.

My problem is this: We are performing a stupid and menial task for the purpose of furthering our video game item collection. It is not fun. I would be embarrassed to say that I spent a weekend doing this. This game is asking us to sell our gamer soul for loot.

Contrast this to the process of learning Twintania.

It was time consuming. It was a grind. It was frustrating. But the process was challenging, it was social, it required teamwork, it made us better players, it made us better friends, and the reward at the end was just the cherry on top.

[NorthernLadMSP]

I'm still kind of confused on the whole path to the relic. I know you start with a Zenith and begin a quest.

So, is it that you then have to do these Fates and get all these Atmas? Then after you have them, you upgrade your relic to Atma? Then after that have to save up 13,500 Myth to upgrade to Anima?

Can someone clarify?

[Gormogon]

everyone hates the atmas quests. this is why all these ff11 idiots need to go back to ff11, not ruin 14

I'm loving the irony though.

Elitists have been doing nothing but whine that gear and certain objectives are too easy to obtain for them and casuals. Now it takes dedication not just having the advantage of being in group with 7 others that can do the content in which they've done nothing but whine. So much for being hardcore.

Fun things are fun like this patch.

[TeaTimeBear]

To all these idiots defending S-E: TIME IS NOT THE ISSUE

I'm willing to put forth the work and grind it out. Such is the nature of MMO's. You have to spend time and effort in order to achieve your goals. I am prepared to do that.

Sometimes there is frustration and sacrifice along the way to reaching that goal. I can live with that too.

My problem is this: We are performing a stupid and menial task for the purpose of furthering our video game item collection. It is not fun. I would be embarrassed to say that I spent a weekend doing this. This game is asking us to sell our gamer soul for loot.

Contrast this to the process of learning Twintania.

It was time consuming. It was a grind. It was frustrating. But the process was challenging, it was social, it required teamwork, it made us better players, it made us better friends, and the reward at the end was just the cherry on top.

Compared to grinding in a game for a year or longer for one item.. Being a tad overly dramatic I'd say.

The relic is not just for showy vanity purposes, it has a use later on as it will be upgradable.

[SendohJin]

I'm still kind of confused on the whole path to the relic. I know you start with a Zenith and begin a quest.

So, is it that you then have to do these Fates and get all these Atmas? Then after you have them, you upgrade your relic to Atma? Then after that have to save up 13,500 Myth to upgrade to Anima?

Can someone clarify?

after you get the Atma, you have to buy challenge books, each book costs 1500 myth to buy and you have to buy 9 books total. you don't spend 13,500 all at once. we don't know what all the challenges are yet though.

[nakano13]

RNJesus must hate me or something, I've gotten 2 atmas pieces and the third one has taken me almost 3 hours of nothing. It's not really "challenging" as much as irritating...I'd rather fight trial/instanced monsters, like Chimera, than grind the same FATEs 20 times over just to pray that something drops.

[ReplicaX]

I think you're both kind of making the same point.

I didn't bring XI into this thread to begin with, same goes for Bizniztyme.

Yes, we are indeed to an extend. However:

This comment contradicts itself as well as some of Bizniztyme's.

That's what the High Allagan weapons are for.
Relics, even in the predecessor FFXI, were never hard to get.
Time consuming, yes, hard, no.

Why?

Animated Weapons
Attestation Mobs
Arch Dynamis Lord

Were challenging content and required skill during their time. Now, not so much as it happens with aging content. I can say the same thing for XIV Relic Progression. Not both their grindy thoughtless parts.

[SendohJin]

Fun things are fun like this patch.

doing Level Capped content for rare drops at Lv 50 is not fun.

[NorthernLadMSP]

after you get the Atma, you have to buy challenge books, each book costs 1500 myth to buy and you have to buy 9 books total. you don't spend 13,500 all at once. we don't know what all the challenges are yet though.

So, are these Fates and Atma pieces the only thing that has to be done to upgrade your Zenith to Atma?

[Doo]

Were challenging content and required skill during their time. Now, not so much as it happens with aging content. I can say the same thing for XIV Relic Progression. Not both their grindy thoughtless parts.

Yeah not all grinds are created the same.

Relic weapon quest currently feels like this http://dannohfive0.files.wordpress.c...f-warcraft.jpg