Feedback Regarding the Relic Upgrade Quest

[TeaTimeBear]

define "many people", i don't know of anyone who said anything close to that before 2.1

everything is optional, even playing the game.

You weren't looking hard then. Use the search function, I've seen that said time and time again. How easy it is to do Titan. I can't name every single person but I've read the threads.

Secondly that may be true but we're talking about this game, this content is a choice and you have others, there's nothing to get iffy about.

[Tupsi]

But getting the relic was a grind for currency first just like this one, you dont even know what you have to do after you finish grinding out these fates. So to me, they are both the same, you both have to grind and grind to get anywhere.

They were talking specifically about Animated Weapons, the Shard Dropper, you for whatever reason brought up Currency.

[Heat]

This is by far the worst thing ever I've seen in a MMO game ever.

grinding fates for 2 hours and not even one drop.

we told them we hate fates and now they make a quest to upgrade a relic weapon that most people would love to do, and you have to grind fates non stop.

[Bizniztyme]

They were talking specifically about Animated Weapons, the Shard Dropper, you for whatever reason brought up Currency.

I brought it up because i am specifically talking about grinding, they bringing up animated weapons is irrelevant to talking about grinding, which was the initial argument, tell me getting your relic in FFXI was not a grind?

[Doo]

This is by far the worst thing ever I've seen in a MMO game ever.

grinding fates for 2 hours and not even one drop.

we told them we hate fates and now they make a quest to upgrade a relic weapon that most people would love to do, and you have to grind fates non stop.

Yeah I rather they went with

Garuda Extreme Hyper EX mode.
Titan Extreme Hyper EX mode.
Ifrit Extreme Hyper Ex mode.

Or just make something new instead of reusing old fates.

I can not even imagine the backlash if this was the case.

They just mad cuz they can't dodge this

[necrosis]

Yeah I rather they went with

Garuda Extreme Hyper EX mode.
Titan Extreme Hyper EX mode.
Ifrit Extreme Hyper Ex mode.

Or just make something new instead of reusing old fates.

I can not even imagine the backlash if this was the case.

[ReplicaX]

But getting the relic was a grind for currency first just like this one, you dont even know what you have to do after you finish grinding out these fates. So to me, they are both the same, you both have to grind and grind to get anywhere.

I take that as a no you didn't. That's all your statement tells me, as grinds in general are a major part of a MMO.

Comparing XI Relic as far as grind is pointless to ARR's. There are folks complaining about HRs grinding FATEs when in XI Progression took years to even get a usable weapon for its content.

[mythicrose]

Yeah I rather they went with

Garuda Extreme Hyper EX mode.
Titan Extreme Hyper EX mode.
Ifrit Extreme Hyper Ex mode.

I don't know if I would want to fight titan, garuda, and ifrit yet again, but I would much rather do challenging content than pray for rng. I've never enjoyed FATES, though. Heck, I would settle for a defeat X for Y times. At least that grind is the same for everyone and not luck dependant.

[Clavaat]

I take that as a no you didn't. That's all your statement tells me, as grinds in general are a major part of a MMO.

Comparing XI Relic as far as grind is pointless to ARR's. There are folks complaining about HRs grinding FATEs when in XI Progression took years to even get a usable weapon for its content.

I think you're both kind of making the same point. I think this quest line was a good attempt at making a grind, but not one that will take XI's amount of time. Is this a good or bad thing? Personally, I think everything in FFXI was too long of a grind (note, I played 3 years before Abyssea). Did ARR balance it better? That still needs to be seen, I think. However, complaining this much about a drop rate or whatever it is some people are pissed about is extreme. From my perspective, there seems to be enough to do from both sides of the fence.

[Bizniztyme]

I take that as a no you didn't. That's all your statement tells me, as grinds in general are a major part of a MMO.

Comparing XI Relic as far as grind is pointless to ARR's. There are folks complaining about HRs grinding FATEs when in XI Progression took years to even get a usable weapon for its content.

Dude, i don't have a problem with grinding in an MMO. I actually enjoy it. And no, I never got a relic but I did grind my but off to save up the currency to obtain one either by doing the content or farming to buy the currency before i had to quit. To me, there is no difference from me having to grind fates or grinding for currency, they're both the same. They're both relatively easy and repetitive. You guys like to bring up what happens after the grind to get the relic in ffxi, do we even know what we have to do after we finish grinding those fates?