Crafting Needs a Place in Endgame Raiding

[Kallera]

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You're kidding... right? Most people in PF groups already ask for people to out level the duty by upwards of 10 ilvls. Heck, I see Titan HM groups asking for ilvl 75+ all the time. You really think that a turn 9 group won't care if you haven't melded all of your Materia slots?

As someone who played WOW for over 5 years, trust me... all adding things like that to end game does is give elitists one more reason to exclude people from content.

If some PF parties are already excluding you, and will continue to exclude you with or without crafter involvement, then it is not us that is the problem. So why are we being blamed? Curtailing crafting gameplay will not lower pf expectations , or make people not be jerks.

Is it our fault tommorrow's maintenance happens in the day too?