Is anyone else really disappointed with the nerfs coming in 2.2?

[rhemi1]

They all start low and are increased incrementally over time, and all require you to wipe first to get it.

Your quote doesn't even include Coil. The Coil Echo buff is entirely separate from the Primal ones, in that it won't even appear for the first 2 weeks, then after that it's automatically turned on and gets larger every week. Check the Q&A if you want proof.

As for the OP, don't try and talk sense into these forums. They WILL put words into your mouth, spout out buzzwords like "elitist" and "special snowflake", and respond to all arguments with "Lol why do you care?". Community and progression in MMOs is dead.

[FoxiLady]

Calling oneself *Hardcore* when you have played less than one quarter of the game? Hardcore at what?

As a player who decided to concentrate on DoH and DoL to start with I now find that I really struggle to even level a character because there just aren't the lower level players around. Doing Dungeons etc as a NOOB I get frowned on by the *elitest* high levels for not knowing how to do said dungeons.

As for complaining because people who come later get rewarded for doing what you have already done *rolls eyes*. You obviously have led a very sheltered gaming life if you don't know that this is common practice in gaming and has been for well over a decade. Look forward and enjoy what is coming for you don't look back and complain because others have something different to what you had.

There are always trailblazers in the world who pioneer new areas and its not something that everyone can do because we don't all start at the same time or have the same amount of playing hours. They make things easier after a time because the *new* players to the game drops off dramatically and they know that there will be less people to play the content.

[Kat_Manx]

My only wish is that content was easier to begin with so nobody who happened to clear anything before anyone else would in any way believe that this somehow makes them better than anyone else.

[Fynlar]

Nope. The nerfs are their way of saying "you guys are STILL trying to get this shit done? we're rolling out some new stuff, stop beating your heads on the old wall and come try out our new wall! "

And I'm pretty tired of trying to get some of this shit done. I don't even think the buffs will help with some of this stuff (looking primarily at things like Titan) but it's better than nothing.

Everything in MMOs gets nerfed eventually, whether that's designer choice, or whether it just happens due to people getting less ignorant or better gear.

[Yukiko]

Somehow this whole "hardcore" thing reminds me of "Wing Commander" and the backstory about the Pilgrims

You know... exploring the unknown IS a challenge, but please do not make the same mistake and forget your roots! Everyone was once weak and you need 7 others for content.

[Kuponutz]

Everything in MMOs gets nerfed eventually, whether that's designer choice, or whether it just happens due to people getting less ignorant or better gear.

I have no problem with eventually as I've repeatedly said. But 3 months after releasing content is not cool. The game is essentially only 6 months old, most wait at least a year or till first xpac to nerf things unless there's a huge difficulty issue that has to be addressed on the fly. But that's unusual.

[Kuponutz]

Somehow this whole "hardcore" thing reminds me of "Wing Commander" and the backstory about the Pilgrims

You know... exploring the unknown IS a challenge, but please do not make the same mistake and forget your roots! Everyone was once weak and you need 7 others for content.

Yes, we did, but most of us didn't beg the developers and cry for them to make it easier because we needed to learn and didn't want to. We sucked it up, did our homework, learned our role and the content and moved on.

[Arkghyom]

As a hardcore gamer I was greatly anticipating 2.2. I have been pretty bored the last couple of weeks waiting. I was excited for some new content.

However, in the LL yesterday they listed a LOT of nerfs in 2.2.

Please SE, push players. Leave content in the game for casual players absolutely, but leave something for the hardcore. I know we are getting Leviathan and more Coil, but that's not much in the big picture, and how long till that gets nerfed, 2.3?

By nerfing content you are basically telling everyone who worked hard for their gear that their time was wasted. Why should we push to beat Leviathan? In 3 months you're just going to make it easier right? Wait till then, do it the easy way and get the same rewards as people who worked really hard to beat it.

Should everyone be entitled to the same rewards regardless of skill level or time invested? I really don't think so.

Why are you even surprised? This was announced way before Open Beta/Official Release.

[Gesser]

Let. Others. Have. An. Easier. Time. Catching. Up. as. It. Will. Be. Very. Difficult*. for. New. Entrants. Otherwise.

Just. Be. Happy. It. Was. Harder. In. Your. Day.

*casuals would have less avail. players for old content, would slog away trying to get to the current end-game, only to have a new patch introduced that would dwarf their efforts.

[Kuponutz]

Why are you even surprised? This was announced way before Open Beta/Official Release.

Doesn't make it any less disappointing to see the extent of it.