Men in Dresses

[Mychael]

A man in a dress shouldn't even be considered extreme. There is nothing wrong with it, and it's only super distracting if the dress itself is made to be "loud" and flamboyant (which women wear dresses like that all the time, so I still don't see the problem with it).That's the problem, how can transwomen, or even just men who like to wear dresses, integrate when people say it's "extreme" to do this? How can they integrate when the very act of doing so is considered "too extreme" for society? The only way people are going to get over their internalized bigotry towards things like this are if people do it more often. The more often transwomen and men who like dresses actually go out and wear dresses in public, the more it'll be seen as just normal stuff that you'd see every day, just like women wearing pants.

If a woman/man is so much more comfortable with the "other" persona, they would be that much more comfortable simply selecting that gender in the game. There is no restriction that your character's gender MUST match your phenotype. Again, it's not a question of should or should not, it's a matter of is and is not. In today's society, it is not widely acceptable to be a man in a dress.

Frankly, with many of the transgender individuals I know, average people would not know they were anything but what they appeared, and they like it that way--the equivalent of simply rolling another gender for your character. Being a man in the dress is most generally trying to exhibit uniqueness, fashion, or have fun. That said, there are cases of genderqueer individuals who, like mbncd brought up earlier, are more comfortable with their male persona, but prefer feminine clothing. And to repeat myself, I don't think many of those borderline personas are so rigid that they could not adapt to either playing a female character, or playing a male character. After all, a customizable video game character is not often a representation of ourselves, so much as what we want ourselves to be.*

*I say that, but PLEASE don't look at my character name... *cough*

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

If a woman/man is so much more comfortable with the "other" persona, they would be that much more comfortable simply selecting that gender in the game. There is no restriction that your character's gender MUST match your phenotype. Again, it's not a question of should or should not, it's a matter of is and is not. In today's society, it is not widely acceptable to be a man in a dress.

The entire thing boils down to "why shouldn't they let it be available?" All gear in the game looks the same on both genders, outside of seasonal and event costumes (and even then, a lot of seasonal costumes are the same for male and female), so why not just allow dresses to be done the same way? They've already established a pattern of gear looking the same or almost exactly the same on both genders, why not continue it?

[Mychael]

The entire thing boils down to "why shouldn't they let it be available?" All gear in the game looks the same on both genders, outside of seasonal and event costumes (and even then, a lot of seasonal costumes are the same for male and female), so why not just allow dresses to be done the same way? They've already established a pattern of gear looking the same or almost exactly the same on both genders, why not continue it?

Hopefully, it will be available. But as this thread demonstrates, I don't know if the majority is ready for it. And like I said, now that this has become a big self-identification debate, I doubt SE will take a stand.