I enjoy the direction this game is going

[Yurimi]

Playerbase seems fine if they're still making profits. Community? Laughable, read through the threads on these forums. Cash shop? They gotta make money somehow. Point is, people are still playing and enjoying those games just like if you and your 20% leave this game, there will still be people playing and enjoying this game. You certainly won't be missed so go ahead and speak with your wallet.

I already have =P as have many of my friends and many of my FC and many more who have said if the game continues to be this easy they wont be around much longer (all of us originally paid for 3-6 months and everyone has either quit or set it to 1 month just to try for the new patch) a drop in a bucket wont be missed but start taking out cups at a time and your bucket will end up empty =P

...congratulations? Why don't you just make the switch permanent? Nobody is forcing you to pay to play this, and if you can spend your money elsewhere then what on earth is stopping you.

I am not paying for this anymore I cancelled my sub I found the forums more entertaining than the game itself personally. I already did make the switch =P

You are entitled to your own opion but then again so am I and while these opinions may differ I have no problem respecting yours though I wont be changing mine becaue of it.

[skaterger]

yes but my "mula" is going to the game style I personally enjoy and funding that rather than funding this game which if by chance others choose to follow suite will slowely decrease the development budget of this game to the point there will be delays cut corners and an overall quality drop. Will that happen no idea but I know I have made my choice and encourage others to do the same. This isnt the only MMO out there and there is far more choices for entertainment. If even 20% of the player base quits and they dumb down end game because NOONE is doing it so that now the new top 20% are ending up in the same boat and quit and that continues then what? going to keep telling them to quit and move on ? Its going to be an amusing boat to watch hopefully it doesnt end up like SWTOR or Aion or Rift or Tera or... well see the list of any released MMO in the last 5 years.

And people say hardcores are complaining about the game because they care about the game and want it to develop and prosper. Guess what? Posts like these show that they only care about themselves, not about the game or the company, stooping so low as to hope the company goes under so that their own wants are met. Holding a game you claim to support at gunpoint is not supporting it. SE should not give in to these players as if they cater to their whims, what is going to happen next time? More demands..and more and more. When these demands are not able to be met, they will leave the game without the blink of an eye.

These are the players who have a negative impact on the community and its creating a bad vibe for the game and for me personally I am glad they are gone. Good riddiance! You won't be missed!

[Edellis]

I already have =P as have many of my friends and many of my FC and many more who have said if the game continues to be this easy they wont be around much longer (all of us originally paid for 3-6 months and everyone has either quit or set it to 1 month just to try for the new patch) a drop in a bucket wont be missed but start taking out cups at a time and your bucket will end up empty =P

This is assuming a decent chunk of the playerbase thinks like you. Statistically, this obviously isn't true. XIV has no indication of slowing down. Every MMO has its chunk of people who burn out and attack the game designers for their frustration, they leave, more come behind them. Trust me, you are much less than a drop in a bucket.


The game has over 1,500,000 players in total worldwide, and less than 99% of them bother with these forums. clearly something is drawing them in long enough for that number to grow. It isn't going to curve off in a month or two.

I am not paying for this anymore I cancelled my sub I found the forums more entertaining than the game itself personally

This is because you're probably waiting for it to change. otherwise you'd have already moved on. But It won't. No matter how much forum complaining exists, it won't change the course of this game or bring it down to any noticeable degree.


There has to be something actually wrong with the game for that to happen. But there isn't.

[Yurimi]

And people say hardcores are complaining about the game because they care about the game and want it to develop and prosper. Guess what? Posts like these show that they only care about themselves, not about the game or the company, stooping so low as to hope the company goes under so that their own wants are met. Holding a game you claim to support at gunpoint is not supporting it. SE should not give in to these players as if they cater to their whims, what is going to happen next time? More demands..and more and more. When these demands are not able to be met, they will leave the game without the blink of an eye.

These are the players who have a negative impact on the community and its creating a bad vibe for the game and for me personally I am glad they are gone. Good riddiance!

LOL If you read my posts I am far from hardcore and I would thank you not to label me as such. I have not fought twintania and I have no intention to I dont sit there endlessly grinding chocobo levels or looking at other plyers gear thinking I have to get that. I am quite casual in my gameplay... I play a game to have fun, however I find no fun in having a game spoon fed to me or my pace of a game determined by others or having others pace determined by me.... I ask you this what exactly is your definition of hardcore ?

To me Hardcore is someone who seeks advancement and follows through with it. Casual is someone who plays the game to simply be entertained we dont care about what others think and we dont look at others gear and go I should be able to get that if I cant imma rage. Then you have those who want to be hardcore but cant for some reason (real life, lack of skill, dial up internet whatever) but want what a hardcore person has so they demand that the platform be lowered so they can get onto it. Thats not casual thats wanting to be hardcore being envious that you cant then whining, demanding the hardcore people get down off the platform and join them, then when it doesnt happen they all come sit and claim to be casual and say that the entirety of the casual player base feels like they do when really us who are truely casual rarely interact with the hardcore because simply put WE DONT CARE WE JUST WANT TO PLAY AND HAVE FUN and we want no interaction with the want to be hardcore people. THATS toxic. You can Tote me as hardcore all you like I took an EXTREMELY casual aproach to this game (this character wasnt even doing coil until like 2 weeks before CT came out) I played and had fun as much as I could but even with a relaxed aproach I finished the content I enjoyed. I dont ask that the game be catered to my whims I ask that ALL players see their needs met both casual hardcore and those in between its your camp that demand everything be catered to them and ONLY them. Its to hard ? Nerf it it takes time ? NERF IT. It takes effort ? NERF IT. thats all I hear on these forums if you really were casual you woudnt care about what others do or get you would log in have your bit of fun and log out, maybe come to the forums to offer some opinions here and there for improvement to your way of playing NOT to voice how others way of playing is somehow ruining your life. Progression of your character is secondary.

I just ran out of fun.

[Yurimi]

The game has over 1,500,000 players in total worldwide, and less than 99% of them bother with these forums. clearly something is drawing them in long enough for that number to grow. It isn't going to curve off in a month or two.

ok seriously people please understand THIS IS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF REGISTERED COPIES OF THE GAME NOT THE NUMBER OF CURRENT ACTIVE SUBS.

[Edellis]

Except Square hasn't nerfed any of the content of the game, and doesn't plan to. I think the only dungeon getting nerfed is Pharos Sirius.


Like I said, you just fail to see that the game you're asking for can't exist correctly. Square designed the game to be mission-reward based because it gives people a clear goal to reach. Adding Open World mechanics to that clashes by design, unless they're made to fit in, which is probably not what you're asking for because you'd probably call it too easy.

ok seriously people please understand THIS IS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF REGISTERED COPIES OF THE GAME NOT THE NUMBER OF CURRENT ACTIVE SUBS.

There's no difference. MMOs dont sell themselves, it has to travel by reviews and word of mouth, which it's clearly doing to go from shitfaced 1.0 to a reboot with over 1.5M registered copies sold.


It means people are praising the game. It's the reason I joined, because unlike XIV 1.0, I couldn't find any particularly bad criticisms about the game on the internet.


As long as Square continues to add content to it (like in 2.2) and keep it relevant, then this probably won't stop. This is also why Square is adding Echo buff to older content. It's all about players joining with forward progression, and the older the game gets, the more forward progression they'll have.

[Deviant1]

Please, give an example of the lackluster garbage that pleases nobody?

1. CT was dead before it released with sub-par gear, and all the trolling makes it less then enjoyable
2. Extreme Primal fights: difficulty is in finding someone who can dodge & do their job more then the dance.
3. insta-death & stay dead mechanics: fights where there is no recovery is just artificial difficulty
4. current content lockouts per week: Thanks for playing coil, please come back next week. Yes they will remove the 1-5 restriction but it will be in the new content.
5. myth/new tombstone caps: Want to grind for gear, well too bad. you can have your allowance of content again next week.
6. vertical only progression: You can only chose between the red pill (Hero's) or the blue pill (alligan).
7. catch up type patches: Oh, did you make it a point to cap your myth and run coil every week, well we will let everyone catch up to you in a day.

[KupoNuts]

The game has over 1,500,000 players in total worldwide, and less than 99% of them bother with these forums.

Wow, that's a pretty confident statement. Do you have a source for this numbers? If not, your argument is invalid.

[Yurimi]

Except Square hasn't nerfed any of the content of the game, and doesn't plan to. I think the only dungeon getting nerfed is Pharos Sirius.


Like I said, you just fail to see that the game you're asking for can't exist correctly. Square designed the game to be mission-reward based because it gives people a clear goal to reach. Adding Open World mechanics to that clashes by design, unless they're made to fit in, which is probably not what you're asking for because you'd probably call it too easy.

So what exactly is your definition of hardcore and casual. Open world content or non expiring content that offers my enjoyment to be had with friends (we do play multiplayer games to socialize still right (I ask because so many complain about dealing with others). I am not a progression player thats why I didnt care about 2.2 all that much for myself. I do care that content is being left to sit in the playerbase hands for long periods of time leaving groups from all camps to quit because only 1 group is being heavily favored. Why cant we have open world content just like we have instances would that hurt either party ? Why cant we have the fun little fluff items like minion collecting and mount collecting. Does someone elses experience of fun ruin your own. Give the hardcore players a stick to chase at its no different than having an HM version vs an EX version of the primals some will enjoy the challenge level of HM some will enjoy it of EX (though I think tying these to the story was utter stupidity because some of us just want to jump around and have fun with the sylphs) why should a person who is only capable of HM level difficulty deny those who want to do EX ? Why would open world content take away from your instanced content ?sounds like you want to be catered to rather than the playerbase as a whole being catered to.

[Edellis]

-CT was dead before it released with sub-par gear, and all the trolling makes it less then enjoyable

I still enjoy the occasional CT even with no use for the parts. CT is by no means dead to newer players.
[*] Extreme Primal fights: difficulty is in finding someone who can dodge & do their job more then the dance.

....what else is there to a fight other than knowing your job and dodging attacks? That IS the dance.
[*] insta-death & stay dead mechanics: fights where there is no recovery is just artificial difficulty

Clearly you've never played Devil May Cry or Ninja Gaiden.
[*] current content lockouts per week: Thanks for playing coil, please come back next week. Yes they will remove the 1-5 restriction but it will be in the new content.[*] catch up type patches: Oh, did you make it a point to cap your myth and run coil every week, well we will let everyone catch up to you in a day.
...So do you like this or dislike this??
[*] myth/new tombstone caps: Want to grind for gear, well too bad. you can have your allowance of content again next week.
There is no such thing as "grinding for gear". Either it drops for you or it does for someone else. The alternative would require a drop rate, which Square (and myself) does not want to bother with.
[*] vertical only progression: You can only chose between the red pill (Hero's) or the blue pill (alligan).
The only worthwhile complaint in here.

just my opinions