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  1. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vactus View Post
    That's because someone else (likely a dragoon) is using a stun as well and causing DR immunity.
    There is none. Titan fully resists all interrupts, but the stomps stop anyway. With 3 DRGs in a group, my WAR still interrupts just fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shref View Post
    i do it all the time as warrior. i hit the button just as hit foot hits on stomp #3. #4 still gets off, but that's it.
    If you time it properly, the 4th won't go off either. Just doesn't seem that you can go any fewer than 3 stomps. Any time after that, you can clear it with a stun or silence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    video or it never happened. I tried many MANY times and never managed to stun anything from titan. Even 4th stomp and 5th and 6th even some times...
    They go up to like 12 if you don't use anything and wait long enough. I've died from stomps from 10k HP when the healers went down. Stomps kept coming and coming until even I was dead.
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    Not quite a pre-T5 weapon for BiS, but just threw a set together quickly that is at least accuracy cap.
    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/LW1O
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  3. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truefaith87 View Post
    Not quite a pre-T5 weapon for BiS, but just threw a set together quickly that is at least accuracy cap.
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    Would swap Warrior's Cuirass for Allagan Armor, still 472 accuracy before food.

    Other than that, you really just have to play around until you get the Allagan accessories.. Namely wrist, earrings, necklace. Alternatively, the Dual Haken has a crap ton of accuracy which will be needed if you only have myth accessories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    Would swap Warrior's Cuirass for Allagan Armor, still 472 accuracy before food.

    Other than that, you really just have to play around until you get the Allagan accessories.. Namely wrist, earrings, necklace. Alternatively, the Dual Haken has a crap ton of accuracy which will be needed if you only have myth accessories.
    Only reason i used what i did was because they were asking for a pre-T5 and pre-primal weapon, so figured i would just take a moment and throw a full set together that could work for them.
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  5. #135
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truefaith87 View Post
    Only reason i used what i did was because they were asking for a pre-T5 and pre-primal weapon, so figured i would just take a moment and throw a full set together that could work for them.
    It's all good! Lol. They are helpful for planning but most of the time you are at the mercy of RNG. At least primal weapons and myth purchases are (relatively easier) to obtain, some people have been playing coil for months without the drops they are looking for.
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  6. #136
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    Any advice on MTing titan ex? Especially in adds phase, when i must eat 3rd MB? Last time i tried it i used foresight and first, ToB on second and Vengenace on third. Obviously IB on all 3, and i should have SP too, but i'm not sure. The fact is, i died on third mb, i did 7.6 damage to me and i had more or less 3/4 of HP(i don't remember if ToB was still up or not). I actually don't know what happened because theorically i should have 60%(or maybe 50%) damage mitigation and ToB up(not sure), maybe i used IB too late, or too soon, can't remember, but i died :/
    I'm full 90 but i have 30 str(yeah i know vit is better, but that's for pvp)
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  7. #137
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riyos View Post
    Any advice on MTing titan ex?
    I honestly started running this on PLD instead of War due to the frequency of MB, one mistake and I would be late with Inner Beast.. Even with no mistakes it's a very tight window.

    Outside of that, tanks should be swapping at 2 stacks.. So you shouldn't really be eating a 3rd, esp not as War. But I'm still working on beating the fat bastard so I don't know everything..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riyos View Post
    Any advice on MTing titan ex? Especially in adds phase, when i must eat 3rd MB? Last time i tried it i used foresight and first, ToB on second and Vengenace on third. Obviously IB on all 3, and i should have SP too, but i'm not sure. The fact is, i died on third mb, i did 7.6 damage to me and i had more or less 3/4 of HP(i don't remember if ToB was still up or not). I actually don't know what happened because theorically i should have 60%(or maybe 50%) damage mitigation and ToB up(not sure), maybe i used IB too late, or too soon, can't remember, but i died :/
    I'm full 90 but i have 30 str(yeah i know vit is better, but that's for pvp)
    I'd switch up your CDs. For one, you aren't guaranteed to have Titan on 3rd MB each add phase. If you do, you got bad DPS (or someone dead), which shouldn't be happening that often. Most likely what you are dieing to is healers falling to far behind in add/bomb phase. Keep in mind if you are getting to 3rd stack MB, it means adds are dieing slow, and OT is still taking damage, on top of healers moving for bombs/landslide/*and plumes if you are getting to 3rd stack*. Even good heals will be slowly falling behind at this point.

    The best way to alleviate this is for your highest mitigation to be used during this period of movement/split heals. As far as *best* it is up to personal flavor in some ways. What I'd suggest is something like: First MB have IB + Foresight just as adds spawn. This is rather easy for heals to get you up, requires minimal CD, even just IB would be fine with Foresight for after damage or for second MB. Vengeance + Convalescence as Titan turns for landslide on group. This helps with bomb exploding on you for some recovery + MB after. Pop Featherfoot somewhere inbetween as well to help regulate incoming autoattacks and such. For 3rd MB, have IB + ToB. With the popping of convalescence and vengeance before, this keeps you topped or closer to topped for the 3rd MB if it comes, which is actually why you died. With full/near full health an IB is more then enough to survive the MB, and you have ToB for that extra HP to take the larger hit. At his point things will have settled down from adds, OT should be switching, and 1 healer not gaoled can get you up high enough to survive upheaval after.

    Anyways, try it out, hopefully it helps. I personally like tanking adds on Warrior, I find the high threat gen to be worth it to secure add positioning. I usually see PLDs struggle with this a bit, where as their CDs help regulate the constant damage a little better for healers during the inevitable moving around of the add phase.
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    Last edited by Traek; 03-04-2014 at 06:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    I honestly started running this on PLD instead of War due to the frequency of MB, one mistake and I would be late with Inner Beast.. Even with no mistakes it's a very tight window.

    Outside of that, tanks should be swapping at 2 stacks.. So you shouldn't really be eating a 3rd, esp not as War. But I'm still working on beating the fat bastard so I don't know everything..
    While it is easier to just be PLD and faceroll, MB comes at a very specific part of the rotation (phase dependent). As long as you know when MB is coming, you can just sit on 5 stacks of Wrath and IB before it happens. PLD is the same you just happen to have more time on your cooldowns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traek View Post
    I'd switch up your CDs.
    For that entire fight, it's important to remember that you don't really take appreciable damage when you're not tanking Titan (the only time you'll be taking much damage is on adds and they don't hit too hard), and you're only tanking Titan for half of the time so you should be actively blowing your CDs, trying to keep at least one up at all times (I generally start with Foresight or Featherfoot when I'm taking over and Conv/Vengeance when those fade; ToB and Holmgang are kept in reserve because they're only useful when you would have died otherwise). The same applies to Ifrit. The great thing about WARs is that the CDs come back fast enough that you can afford to be generous with their use, unlike PLD, which has long CDs so, even if they're more powerful, they have to be stingy with their use to make sure that they have them up when they really need 'em.
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