Only reason i used what i did was because they were asking for a pre-T5 and pre-primal weapon, so figured i would just take a moment and throw a full set together that could work for them.Would swap Warrior's Cuirass for Allagan Armor, still 472 accuracy before food.
Other than that, you really just have to play around until you get the Allagan accessories.. Namely wrist, earrings, necklace. Alternatively, the Dual Haken has a crap ton of accuracy which will be needed if you only have myth accessories.
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It's all good! Lol. They are helpful for planning but most of the time you are at the mercy of RNG. At least primal weapons and myth purchases are (relatively easier) to obtain, some people have been playing coil for months without the drops they are looking for.
Any advice on MTing titan ex? Especially in adds phase, when i must eat 3rd MB? Last time i tried it i used foresight and first, ToB on second and Vengenace on third. Obviously IB on all 3, and i should have SP too, but i'm not sure. The fact is, i died on third mb, i did 7.6 damage to me and i had more or less 3/4 of HP(i don't remember if ToB was still up or not). I actually don't know what happened because theorically i should have 60%(or maybe 50%) damage mitigation and ToB up(not sure), maybe i used IB too late, or too soon, can't remember, but i died :/
I'm full 90 but i have 30 str(yeah i know vit is better, but that's for pvp)
I honestly started running this on PLD instead of War due to the frequency of MB, one mistake and I would be late with Inner Beast.. Even with no mistakes it's a very tight window.
Outside of that, tanks should be swapping at 2 stacks.. So you shouldn't really be eating a 3rd, esp not as War. But I'm still working on beating the fat bastard so I don't know everything..
While it is easier to just be PLD and faceroll, MB comes at a very specific part of the rotation (phase dependent). As long as you know when MB is coming, you can just sit on 5 stacks of Wrath and IB before it happens. PLD is the same you just happen to have more time on your cooldowns.I honestly started running this on PLD instead of War due to the frequency of MB, one mistake and I would be late with Inner Beast.. Even with no mistakes it's a very tight window.
Outside of that, tanks should be swapping at 2 stacks.. So you shouldn't really be eating a 3rd, esp not as War. But I'm still working on beating the fat bastard so I don't know everything..
In my runs I had the exact amount of time needed to build 5 stacks, there was no sitting and waiting for MB. If you are late by one it throws the whole thing off. I got it a few times, just not consistently, enough people complain about wiping once - it's not gonna be because I didn't get Inner Beast off in time lol.. I guess I could be more liberal with CDs, still learning the fight though, only got as far as first super bombWhile it is easier to just be PLD and faceroll, MB comes at a very specific part of the rotation (phase dependent). As long as you know when MB is coming, you can just sit on 5 stacks of Wrath and IB before it happens. PLD is the same you just happen to have more time on your cooldowns.
Last edited by whiskeybravo; 03-05-2014 at 12:53 AM.
I'd switch up your CDs. For one, you aren't guaranteed to have Titan on 3rd MB each add phase. If you do, you got bad DPS (or someone dead), which shouldn't be happening that often. Most likely what you are dieing to is healers falling to far behind in add/bomb phase. Keep in mind if you are getting to 3rd stack MB, it means adds are dieing slow, and OT is still taking damage, on top of healers moving for bombs/landslide/*and plumes if you are getting to 3rd stack*. Even good heals will be slowly falling behind at this point.Any advice on MTing titan ex? Especially in adds phase, when i must eat 3rd MB? Last time i tried it i used foresight and first, ToB on second and Vengenace on third. Obviously IB on all 3, and i should have SP too, but i'm not sure. The fact is, i died on third mb, i did 7.6 damage to me and i had more or less 3/4 of HP(i don't remember if ToB was still up or not). I actually don't know what happened because theorically i should have 60%(or maybe 50%) damage mitigation and ToB up(not sure), maybe i used IB too late, or too soon, can't remember, but i died :/
I'm full 90 but i have 30 str(yeah i know vit is better, but that's for pvp)
The best way to alleviate this is for your highest mitigation to be used during this period of movement/split heals. As far as *best* it is up to personal flavor in some ways. What I'd suggest is something like: First MB have IB + Foresight just as adds spawn. This is rather easy for heals to get you up, requires minimal CD, even just IB would be fine with Foresight for after damage or for second MB. Vengeance + Convalescence as Titan turns for landslide on group. This helps with bomb exploding on you for some recovery + MB after. Pop Featherfoot somewhere inbetween as well to help regulate incoming autoattacks and such. For 3rd MB, have IB + ToB. With the popping of convalescence and vengeance before, this keeps you topped or closer to topped for the 3rd MB if it comes, which is actually why you died. With full/near full health an IB is more then enough to survive the MB, and you have ToB for that extra HP to take the larger hit. At his point things will have settled down from adds, OT should be switching, and 1 healer not gaoled can get you up high enough to survive upheaval after.
Anyways, try it out, hopefully it helps. I personally like tanking adds on Warrior, I find the high threat gen to be worth it to secure add positioning. I usually see PLDs struggle with this a bit, where as their CDs help regulate the constant damage a little better for healers during the inevitable moving around of the add phase.
Last edited by Traek; 03-04-2014 at 06:35 AM.
For that entire fight, it's important to remember that you don't really take appreciable damage when you're not tanking Titan (the only time you'll be taking much damage is on adds and they don't hit too hard), and you're only tanking Titan for half of the time so you should be actively blowing your CDs, trying to keep at least one up at all times (I generally start with Foresight or Featherfoot when I'm taking over and Conv/Vengeance when those fade; ToB and Holmgang are kept in reserve because they're only useful when you would have died otherwise). The same applies to Ifrit. The great thing about WARs is that the CDs come back fast enough that you can afford to be generous with their use, unlike PLD, which has long CDs so, even if they're more powerful, they have to be stingy with their use to make sure that they have them up when they really need 'em.
My group swaps after 3 stacks also as we just find it makes it easier timing wise, swap everytime he cocks his leg up and at the end of each cycle when bombs appear everywhere.Any advice on MTing titan ex? Especially in adds phase, when i must eat 3rd MB? Last time i tried it i used foresight and first, ToB on second and Vengenace on third. Obviously IB on all 3, and i should have SP too, but i'm not sure. The fact is, i died on third mb, i did 7.6 damage to me and i had more or less 3/4 of HP(i don't remember if ToB was still up or not). I actually don't know what happened because theorically i should have 60%(or maybe 50%) damage mitigation and ToB up(not sure), maybe i used IB too late, or too soon, can't remember, but i died :/
I'm full 90 but i have 30 str(yeah i know vit is better, but that's for pvp)
I actually find it alot easier to tank it on WAR then PLD once you have the timing down. You can inner beast every mountain buster easily and once you have 5 stack you know that mountain buster is about to come, use IB after every second move he does if that makes sense, mountain buster > another move > another move > IB > mountain buster. Obviously you should be keeping storms path up also, just cycle storms path > butchers > repeat
For the first MB use IB, 2nd use thrill of battle + IB, 3rd use vengance + IB. With vengance+IB+SP and normally rage of halone if you are with a pld the 3rd stack MB will only do about 2.8k dmg i think from memory, you shouldnt drop below 50% as long as the healers are keeping you topped off.
try to stagger foresight > featherfoot > bloodbath for abit of mitigation over the duration you are holding hate.
The -30 vit from point allotment shouldn't matter, I normally tank with crafted accessories (-25vit) for quicker kills during sell runs.
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