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    Quote Originally Posted by Castillan View Post
    Whenever I'm in any Primal fights, I'm typically seeing anything from 2500-7000ms spiky server ping times.

    I've only just unlocked Titan XM. Can someone tell me if Titan XM is possible with the above mentioned ping times?
    Either you're playing from the ISS or you're reading something wrong. Remember that 1000 millisecond = 1 second. 7000ms you might as well be watching a slideshow.

    I agree the fight can be punishing for those who are not used to twitch-response games, and I have no doubt lag plays a part in some people's poor performance. But the whole "blame the lag" argument is so abused ("I only lag here and nowhere else in the game", "I normally dodge just fine, but that one mistake was because of a mysterious lag", "I totally dodged it the same way I dodged everything else, but it hit me anyway"...) you just stop caring after a while.

    I don't think having a good reflex = skill, at least not in any way that actually makes the game more fun. I'd call Titan Extreme a "humility check" more than anything else. It is a fight that separates those who really drill down and find ways to beat him consistently and others who quickly dismiss their failure on something out of their control.
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    Last edited by EmiliM; 02-26-2014 at 08:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmiliM View Post
    I agree the fight can be punishing for those who are not used to twitch-response games,
    Correction: twitch-precognition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EmiliM View Post
    Either you're playing from the ISS or you're reading something wrong. Remember that 1000 millisecond = 1 second. 7000ms you might as well be watching a slideshow.
    I know full well that 1000ms = 1 second. It's never a slideshow at my end, what it is, is just me seeing AoE markers, moving out of them locally with reactions as quick as any online video displays, standing clearly outside of the AoE marker by 2y or so, casting a power, having the GCD finish, start casting the next power and then "BAM!" you're hit by the effect that you just dodged 3+ seconds ago.

    I can do Titan HM to the end, and get hit maybe three times by WotL, but that's because I'm always moving and anticipating. I've seen the Titan XM videos where people stack for the plumes, and react-move. Believe me, that's instant death to play like that for many. For some of us, lag is an insurmountable issue, no matter how much the elitists enjoying 100-300ms ping times bleat otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Castillan View Post
    For some of us, lag is an insurmountable issue, no matter how much the elitists enjoying 100-300ms ping times bleat otherwise.
    People with half decent internet are elitist now? It's 2014, if you can't get internet that isn't terrible then I don't know what to say. You're going to encounter similar problems in all 3 extremes, Turn 5, and no doubt parts of 2.2 aswell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EmiliM View Post
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    I used to believe the same thing, as I didn't have lag issues. This was before 2.1. Now ironically after they fixed the server side checks, I do have lag issues. And while I won't say it's only at Titan, that's where it's most obvious, and most unforgiving. What's really frustrating is that it's not consistent at all. On some days I have no lag, and well jolly good, got my EMPs done for the week.. and on some days I get spikes that are so bad I have to move before I see the visuals on WotL. I still don't end up dragging my plume with me, so I've definitely not moved early. Thing is, you can do this with plumes, with landslides, it's luck of the draw.

    I end up giving up for the day if I get lag spikes instead of wasting other peoples' time but it's getting to the point I wonder why I still play.
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    Last edited by kayuwoody; 02-26-2014 at 07:50 PM.