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  1. #61
    Player
    Synapse's Avatar
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    Synaptic Striker
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    If the fight was more about strategy and not who has better ping output, this game would do well.

    You can do Titan Extreme from December and have it done more than 40x, one lag spike in any of those run "omg your a bad players, kick him", and all your kill up to this point seems moot.

    Heck it took me one about 1 week of fail to memorize Titan patterns, now Titan Extreme is same level as Titan HM.
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    Goodbye, Final Fantasy...

  2. #62
    Player alhandra's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Alhandra Starbreeze
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    Midgardsormr
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    i have a hard time beating titan but not cuz of lag. its because people that dont know the fight join "weekly clear" parties when they dont know what the hell they are doing
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  3. #63
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    EasymodeX's Avatar
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    Lunairetic Emx
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Cleared it with a melee DPS who was playing on wireless in Taiwan. He had >300 ping and dodged all the mechanics.

    Deal.
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  4. #64
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    KoujiMoreno's Avatar
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    Soi Fong
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    Cleared it with a melee DPS who was playing on wireless in Taiwan. He had >300 ping and dodged all the mechanics.

    Deal.
    You sound really edgy.
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  5. #65
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    Cyera Vanguardia
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    I'm just going to go ahead and say it. The fight is stupid in it's design. There is no leeway to avoiding plumes/landslide and unless your ping is low, players are going to have a bad time eventually. I have relatively good latency experiences with the fight and rarely get hit but its perplexing to see that sometimes on my screen, I'm still in the plume and the cast bar has gone off but the server registers it as avoided.

    Punish the complacent player for standing in bad. Don't punish the player who makes a effort but doesn't have twitch like reflexes in a non-twitch game. I'm curious to see the metrics on SE's side of how many runs are successfully completed versus failures.
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  6. #66
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    Castillan's Avatar
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    Castillan Lionheart
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    Zalera
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Whenever I'm in any Primal fights, I'm typically seeing anything from 2500-7000ms spiky server ping times.

    I've only just unlocked Titan XM. Can someone tell me if Titan XM is possible with the above mentioned ping times?
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  7. #67
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    Talim Amariyo
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Castillan View Post
    Can someone tell me if Titan XM is possible with the above mentioned ping times?
    lol

    10char
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  8. #68
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    Emilia Marseilles
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    Quote Originally Posted by Castillan View Post
    Whenever I'm in any Primal fights, I'm typically seeing anything from 2500-7000ms spiky server ping times.

    I've only just unlocked Titan XM. Can someone tell me if Titan XM is possible with the above mentioned ping times?
    Either you're playing from the ISS or you're reading something wrong. Remember that 1000 millisecond = 1 second. 7000ms you might as well be watching a slideshow.

    I agree the fight can be punishing for those who are not used to twitch-response games, and I have no doubt lag plays a part in some people's poor performance. But the whole "blame the lag" argument is so abused ("I only lag here and nowhere else in the game", "I normally dodge just fine, but that one mistake was because of a mysterious lag", "I totally dodged it the same way I dodged everything else, but it hit me anyway"...) you just stop caring after a while.

    I don't think having a good reflex = skill, at least not in any way that actually makes the game more fun. I'd call Titan Extreme a "humility check" more than anything else. It is a fight that separates those who really drill down and find ways to beat him consistently and others who quickly dismiss their failure on something out of their control.
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    Last edited by EmiliM; 02-26-2014 at 08:47 AM.

  9. #69
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    Sileas Goode
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    Hyperion
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    Culinarian Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by EmiliM View Post
    I agree the fight can be punishing for those who are not used to twitch-response games,
    Correction: twitch-precognition.
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  10. #70
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    Castillan Lionheart
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    Zalera
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by EmiliM View Post
    Either you're playing from the ISS or you're reading something wrong. Remember that 1000 millisecond = 1 second. 7000ms you might as well be watching a slideshow.
    I know full well that 1000ms = 1 second. It's never a slideshow at my end, what it is, is just me seeing AoE markers, moving out of them locally with reactions as quick as any online video displays, standing clearly outside of the AoE marker by 2y or so, casting a power, having the GCD finish, start casting the next power and then "BAM!" you're hit by the effect that you just dodged 3+ seconds ago.

    I can do Titan HM to the end, and get hit maybe three times by WotL, but that's because I'm always moving and anticipating. I've seen the Titan XM videos where people stack for the plumes, and react-move. Believe me, that's instant death to play like that for many. For some of us, lag is an insurmountable issue, no matter how much the elitists enjoying 100-300ms ping times bleat otherwise.
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