Titan Extreme Ping check rather than EXP players check

[Castillan]

Whenever I'm in any Primal fights, I'm typically seeing anything from 2500-7000ms spiky server ping times.

I've only just unlocked Titan XM. Can someone tell me if Titan XM is possible with the above mentioned ping times?

[Ninix]

Can someone tell me if Titan XM is possible with the above mentioned ping times?

lol

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[EmiliM]

Whenever I'm in any Primal fights, I'm typically seeing anything from 2500-7000ms spiky server ping times.

I've only just unlocked Titan XM. Can someone tell me if Titan XM is possible with the above mentioned ping times?

Either you're playing from the ISS or you're reading something wrong. Remember that 1000 millisecond = 1 second. 7000ms you might as well be watching a slideshow.

I agree the fight can be punishing for those who are not used to twitch-response games, and I have no doubt lag plays a part in some people's poor performance. But the whole "blame the lag" argument is so abused ("I only lag here and nowhere else in the game", "I normally dodge just fine, but that one mistake was because of a mysterious lag", "I totally dodged it the same way I dodged everything else, but it hit me anyway"...) you just stop caring after a while.

I don't think having a good reflex = skill, at least not in any way that actually makes the game more fun. I'd call Titan Extreme a "humility check" more than anything else. It is a fight that separates those who really drill down and find ways to beat him consistently and others who quickly dismiss their failure on something out of their control.

[Gardes]

I agree the fight can be punishing for those who are not used to twitch-response games,

Correction: twitch-precognition.

[Castillan]

Either you're playing from the ISS or you're reading something wrong. Remember that 1000 millisecond = 1 second. 7000ms you might as well be watching a slideshow.

I know full well that 1000ms = 1 second. It's never a slideshow at my end, what it is, is just me seeing AoE markers, moving out of them locally with reactions as quick as any online video displays, standing clearly outside of the AoE marker by 2y or so, casting a power, having the GCD finish, start casting the next power and then "BAM!" you're hit by the effect that you just dodged 3+ seconds ago.

I can do Titan HM to the end, and get hit maybe three times by WotL, but that's because I'm always moving and anticipating. I've seen the Titan XM videos where people stack for the plumes, and react-move. Believe me, that's instant death to play like that for many. For some of us, lag is an insurmountable issue, no matter how much the elitists enjoying 100-300ms ping times bleat otherwise.

[Alkimi]

For some of us, lag is an insurmountable issue, no matter how much the elitists enjoying 100-300ms ping times bleat otherwise.

People with half decent internet are elitist now? It's 2014, if you can't get internet that isn't terrible then I don't know what to say. You're going to encounter similar problems in all 3 extremes, Turn 5, and no doubt parts of 2.2 aswell.

[kayuwoody]

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I used to believe the same thing, as I didn't have lag issues. This was before 2.1. Now ironically after they fixed the server side checks, I do have lag issues. And while I won't say it's only at Titan, that's where it's most obvious, and most unforgiving. What's really frustrating is that it's not consistent at all. On some days I have no lag, and well jolly good, got my EMPs done for the week.. and on some days I get spikes that are so bad I have to move before I see the visuals on WotL. I still don't end up dragging my plume with me, so I've definitely not moved early. Thing is, you can do this with plumes, with landslides, it's luck of the draw.

I end up giving up for the day if I get lag spikes instead of wasting other peoples' time but it's getting to the point I wonder why I still play.

[Ooshima]

Whenever I'm in any Primal fights, I'm typically seeing anything from 2500-7000ms spiky server ping times.

I've only just unlocked Titan XM. Can someone tell me if Titan XM is possible with the above mentioned ping times?

2.5-7s ping?

I have no evidence to say it's 100% impossible but that's "incredible".

IDK - I understand and have experienced shitty lags before because I live in South-East Asia and I started the game in a NA Server. 290-400ms pings are common for me even on fibre broadband. When I shifted to JP Server, my pings are always under 100ms

So considering from SEA to NA is almost one side to another side of the globe already and on fibre it is about 290-400ms, I'm really wondering what kind of internet connection is 2500-7000ms? (I'm being honest here, I really don't know because I've never experienced such pings nor have knowledge about what causes such pings)

[Castillan]

2.5-7s ping?

I have no evidence to say it's 100% impossible but that's "incredible".

In the open world, if there's no one around, my ping times are around 400-600ms for me. It's only once I get into the Primal fights that it gets weird. With everyone standing at the start and buffing it'll be like 400-600ms as per "normal". Once the fight starts, it'll move up to around 1500ms, and then it's like 100ms gets added per minute after that. Most times, mid-fight, it'll be around 2500-2800ms or so as a fairly "steady" thing, and normally I compensate for that fairly well by pre-moving and anticipation and knowing the patterns of what's coming up, including flat out running into effect detonations on my screen to avoid what's going to appear under me 3 seconds later, because I know that they're actually finished as far as the server is concerned. The times that I do get hit though, most typically it'll be reading anywhere between 4000-7000ms, having spiked that high unexpectedly. It's even worse in CT, I've played through that with steady 12-16s ping times before.

Once the fight ends, bingo, straight back to a "normal" 400-600ms.

Go figure. I personally suspect serious traffic shaping by my ISP.

What's truly bizarre though, is that I can be on TeamSpeak with my friends in the USA, and I've had them tell me that some enemy effect has been cast, and then it'll appear on my screen two seconds later. I mean, let's think about that for a moment. The traffic from the game server has left towards me and my friend at the same time (presumably). My USA friend can see the effect, then speak about it, and his voice travels from the USA to me, and I hear him saying it, a good two seconds before my game displays it.

Actually, the more I think about it as I write that, it's almost definitely ISP traffic shaping that's happening.

[Ooshima]

Go figure. I personally suspect serious traffic shaping by my ISP.

Highly possible. Some ISPs tends to oversell their bandwidth and thus resorted to rather serious traffic control/throttling measures.

Hope you have some other ISPs to move to.