Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[MissusStick]

I have found putting phlebotomize directly after heavy thrust actually produces more damage than after chaos thrust combo. a large portion of that damage comes from the DOT. The chaos thrust combo is a solid 7 -7.5 seconds long. that's at least 2 ticks of 50 ptoency you are losing out on by putting it after the chaos thrust combo. It's also far easier than keeping track of 3 buffs instead of just 2. It does put chaos thrust back almost a whole tick, which would be probably about 25 potency, made up for in the early phlebo. I am confident this raises dps.

also disembowel is not a +10% damage as you have listed in your DOT section. it reduces piercing resistance by 10%, not knowing what the mob's piercing resistance is, this can either be a large dps increase or a very small one. This too, also increases the priority of phlebo above the disembowel combo.

[Exa_Jyn]

I have found putting phlebotomize directly after heavy thrust actually produces more damage than after chaos thrust combo. a large portion of that damage comes from the DOT. The chaos thrust combo is a solid 7 -7.5 seconds long. that's at least 2 ticks of 50 ptoency you are losing out on by putting it after the chaos thrust combo. It's also far easier than keeping track of 3 buffs instead of just 2. It does put chaos thrust back almost a whole tick, which would be probably about 25 potency, made up for in the early phlebo. I am confident this raises dps.

The damage of your Attack/Combo/DoT is determined by your stat-values AT EXECUTION. If you have 15% +dmg from HT when you hit Phlebotomize, that +15%dmg will apply to you initial hit and the entire DoT. Your DoT will not get weaker when HT drops.

also disembowel is not a +10% damage as you have listed in your DOT section. it reduces piercing resistance by 10%, not knowing what the mob's piercing resistance is, this can either be a large dps increase or a very small one. This too, also increases the priority of phlebo above the disembowel combo.

If all your damage (excl. DoTs) is piercing, then a 10% reduction in piercing resistance is effectively a 10% increase of all your damage. Afaik this works 1:1, I'm sure it's been tested and the calculations in this thread are all along these lines: Disembowel + Attack = Attack *1.1


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[Spartan117]

If all your damage (excl. DoTs) is piercing, then a 10% reduction in piercing resistance is effectively a 10% increase of all your damage. Afaik this works 1:1, I'm sure it's been tested and the calculations in this thread are all along these lines: Disembowel + Attack = Attack *1.1

Which comes to a point i disagree with this thread. Conventional armor/resistance formulas (not just for MMOs) go somewhere along the line of 100/(100+armor/resistance). It makes more sense that a 10% reduction does not mean a straight up 10% increase in damage, if not it makes stacking armor rather moot.

And using 100/(100+resistance) formula gives at best a 3% increase in damage taken, with values up to 400 resistance (we have 34X ish resistance on our characters as basis)

[Dervy]

I have found putting phlebotomize directly after heavy thrust actually produces more damage than after chaos thrust combo. a large portion of that damage comes from the DOT. The chaos thrust combo is a solid 7 -7.5 seconds long. that's at least 2 ticks of 50 ptoency you are losing out on by putting it after the chaos thrust combo. It's also far easier than keeping track of 3 buffs instead of just 2. It does put chaos thrust back almost a whole tick, which would be probably about 25 potency, made up for in the early phlebo. I am confident this raises dps.

Yes, you are right. Plebotomize does get an extra 2 ticks at the start of you applying it, but you then lose those 2 ticks on Chaos Thrust application, as both DoTs end at the same time. In total, it's a DPS loss as CT DoTs > PL DoTs. The discussion around it was posted in the more earlier pages, around page 25-40. Somewhere there.