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    Peptaru's Avatar
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    Tarragon Lai
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 50
    I meant to cancel it before the next fireball comes in, not that you could be hit by fireball during conflag.
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    KrystalF's Avatar
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    Krystal Frost
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    Odin
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    Lancer Lv 50
    I start with a Full Thrust and do a TTT combo after with jumps between and buffs before if needed. Also you can use Keen Flurry for fireball if you have BFB up, it parries 27% of the dmg.
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    Philia Felice
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    I don't really play with any DRGs and haven't leveled DRG very high. Definitely my least experienced class for all the time I've played the game. That in mind, I've got some questions:

    1. What does a well-played i90 DRG trck on a parser going from start to dry?
    2. How close to that number will it translate to fights that matter, like EMPs and BC? This could be inexperience talking but it seems like they're not penalized as terribly for phase shifts and dodges as some classes.
    3. Since DRGs put out bigger numbers and have burst in mind as a strength, do they value CHR more so than DET in itemization?
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    SNIP
    1) I parse highest in my group for most content.

    2) Garuda EX, DRG's parse terribly compared to other jobs. Same goes for the monk.. Other then that, only person holding back the Dragoon is the player themselves for all other instances.

    3) We always valued DET more than CRT, but because of the old stat-weights along with the itemization, we benefited more stacking Crit. We now practically stack 100% DET as we have more accurate DET stat-weights.
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    Thorauku's Avatar
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    Yvaine Isaulde
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    Tonberry
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    Lancer Lv 50
    In fights like Titan, how do you guys keep up your rotation wherein you need to move constantly?

    Because it seems the rotation in the first page is only good for ST which doesn't require any dodge or alot of movements.
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    Vhyl Cottoncandy
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Imma try to break down how I do titan fight

    Phase 1.
    As soon as the tanker the battle, I use spineshatter jump follow with heavy thrust and leg sweep then start building Chaos Thrust combo.
    then I throw in Phlebotomize and fracture. I use fracture because I dont wanna run on the side to refresh my heavy thrust yet, because titan will cast Plummes which can kill my teammates or myself. when evading plummes I ran to side to refresh my Heavy Thrust.
    And pop my B4B and Internal release buff, since the animation is faster I can pop 2 buffs without wasting my GCD
    TT-PS-VP-LSi-FT-Jump then Follow another round of TTT but this time I put Leg sweep and Dragondive jump in between. the reason I pop B4B and IR is because I like big number XD
    Im not sure if i pop B4b for chaos thrust or b4b for 2 of TTT will do more damage.
    most of the time by the time i get to the 2nd round of TTT, titan already jump. if not then i just refresh my HT and use TTT, he should be jumping really soon.

    Phase 2
    As soon as Titan landed, I positioned myself for HT, and then leg sweep, and CT combo.
    and same thing i put in phle and fract as well. because titan will gaol someone around this time. I m not sure who he will gaol, just in case he gaol me and i cant do damage, my DoT will do the job for me.
    if he gaol other people, I refresh my HT and start building TTT combo, as soon as i can target the gaol i change target to gaol n try to break it asap usually leg sweep is ready to use. and if i manage to free them earlier, i can land a hit on titan before i got upheaval push back. becareful when you free the healer, not too early not too late.
    then start to refresh heavy thrust again after gaol, build chaos thrust combo and phle. and he should be using plummes at this time, refresh my heavy thrust, and start my TTT combo again, im pretty sure my IR and B4B are ready. pop it and and do my TTT with power surge and life surge again, and another TTT with jumps. when you are on the 1st TTT, becareful for titan will use Landslide, and dont jump too early as well, last time i jumped too early even thou im out of line for a while, but because of the jump i got landslided. and on the 2nd TTT, you will face a plummes, you can wait a bit if you want to. at the 2nd of TTT you will probably has few more second on B4B n HT, i usually refresh phle with it
    then refresh HT and CT again, this time titan will summon bombs, depends on the bomb placement and how tanker deal with it, try to stick close to titan, if not then just leave dot and find a safe spot, if you are daredevil like me, stick to titan and use phle and then TTT.
    after the bomb, titan will gaol, if you have a high dps party, you can skip it, or you will get gaol but skip landslide. For this one, i refresh my HT and use TTT combo and switch target to gaol asap I can target. after the landslide build the CT combo again and use TTT, he should be jumping soon.

    Heart phase
    when titan landed, stand right next to him and wait for Heart to spawn, and use HT leg sweep and CT combo, follow with Phle and Fr, but this depend on situation, if im the only melee, i POP my B4B and IR right away after HT, build CT combo and phle and TTT. the reason is we tried to push the phase so that we can skip bomb, so i kinda gamble it on gaol either i got gaoled or i can kill gaol fast.after the landslide, i refresh HT and build CT again, this time after tumult, Titan will use Plummes, I should be done building my CT combo and sometimes i have time to use Phle, if not then i skip it and LB the boss. after that, refresh HT and use TTT, heart should be gone by then.
    IF on the Heart phase there is 2 melee, i usually let the other melee LB and i POP my B4B and IR after the landslide

    LAST PHASE
    titan landed, and again build HT and CT combo, if you do it right, at disembowel, titan will summon egi, but you cant target it yet because of animation, so finish the CT combo on titan.
    for EGIs, it depends on how the party wanted it. my party like to kill egi at 3oclock, so i ran straight to egi that spawn at 3oclock, and use CT combo on him right away, then lay in phlebotomize and fracture on east titan, after all the dot, judging on which egis has more hp, i switch target, there will be landslide, remember to move away from it and evade the bomb as well. then continue to dps the egis, and there is a plummes coming.
    after the egis, build HT and CT combo again n phlebotomize, and if I got gaol, i thow in a fracture, if not then i start use TTT and switch target to gaol again as soon as its available. n break party member out.
    after the landslide, my combo is a bit different here. using HT, then impluse drive, disembowel, pop my b4b, chaos thrust, internal release, true thrust, power surge, vorpal thrust, life surge, full thrust and jump, becareful with double plummes when you do all those combo.
    this time, titan will summon bomb, so i just use HT, CT combo and drop in some DOT and find a safe spot.
    after the bombs, rebuild the CT combo again, and phlebotomize, refresh my HT and go straight to the bomb spawn that we gonna kill.... we kill the 9 oclock bomb, so its really close to me, while dpsing the bomb, REMEMBER of Plummes.
    when titan landed, he will do a landslide, i like to put phlebotomize n fracture here. then rinse repeat again...

    that is pretty much how i do my titan, and i usually has the highest dps overall.
    if anyone can give more idea on how to do it, i would love to learn it.

    sorry if there is a confusion, n sorry mi inglishi no gook.
    mightgetbannedforthisspamT_T
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    Last edited by Vhyl; 01-12-2014 at 07:46 AM.

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    Genji Xiii
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Thorauku View Post
    In fights like Titan, how do you guys keep up your rotation wherein you need to move constantly?

    Because it seems the rotation in the first page is only good for ST which doesn't require any dodge or alot of movements.
    movement on titan is almost nil dps loss as melee, since he is a very large target and one can typically move around him to dodge or stay very near to his hit box. a good melee will achieve 100% up time on boss, unless gaol mechanic/jumps/superbombs phase dictates otherwise.
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    I don't always pug, but when i do, it's with Pretty Ugly Guys

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    Jenity Dionysus
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    Hyperion
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    Archer Lv 80
    All I have is anecdotal evidence but I missed quite a few times on Twintania with 463 accuracy.

    Gae Bolg Zenith

    Mythology
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    Mythology
    Mythology
    Mythology (Haven't gotten a piece of left-side Allagan gear yet -_- )

    Allagan Striking
    Allagan Striking
    Mythology
    Vortex Ring (Striking)
    Allagan Maiming

    Tested with no food to retain 463 accuracy.
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  9. 01-12-2014 07:21 AM
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