Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[AugustusSB]

Why is Black Truffle Risotto such garbage?? I know none of us have the ability with the current gear out to take full advantage of it, BUT even if we did this is what we get:

Black Truffle Risotto HQ
Vitality, +3% max 19
Critical Hit +2% max 11
Determination +4% max 17

We would need 550 Critical hit and 425 Determination to make full use of this, clearly outside of our capability atm since max determination without food is 372 at the moment. Compare this to Buttons in a blanket.

Buttons in a Blanket HQ
Vitality, +4% max 15
Critical Hit +2% max 10
Determination +5% Max 16

Where we need 500 Critical Hit and 320 Determination to reach its full potential. Now you might be thinking whats my point?

My point is this, i'm going from an easy lvl 47 recipe with mats readily available to a pain in the you know 2 star to require an additional 50 crit and a 105 determination to get 1 point of crit and determination EXTRA from food.


/facepalm LOL SE

[EDIT] /calmly wishes for Determination/VIT only food

[whiskeybravo]

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That is strange.. Is the Vitality boost even more absurd? Buttons 375 Vit to reach max, Rissoto 633 Vit to reach max.. LOL

Maybe it's just for the future

[HulveinBlitz]

Maybe its in line with the next set of recipes, but wouldn't hold my breath there.

[Spartan117]

Black Truffle Risotto HQ
Vitality, +3% max 19
Critical Hit +2% max 11
Determination +4% max 17

We would need 550 Critical hit and 425 Determination to make full use of this, clearly outside of our capability atm since max determination without food is 372 at the moment. Compare this to Buttons in a blanket.

Buttons in a Blanket HQ
Vitality, +4% max 15
Critical Hit +2% max 10
Determination +5% Max 16

My point is this, i'm going from an easy lvl 47 recipe with mats readily available to a pain in the you know 2 star to require an additional 50 crit and a 105 determination to get 1 point of crit and determination EXTRA from food.

you never know what ilvl 100 would be like with the 4 new turns in CoB, and so on for ilvl 1XX... so until then it's more economical for buttons and sad face for black truffles harvesters

god /1k char

[Spartan117]

Has also explained it's less than 1% DPS loss. So yeah.

Edit: I do prefer the H IDC P TTT method, but iirc the "old" way was HPF IDC TTT HPF TTT IDC HPF TTT TTT so some people are hardwired for HP.

From earlier discussions + my own calculations + dummy, HPF IDC TTT and H IDC P TTT has no significant difference in damage dealt over a 3 min fight (but strangely my data says HPF IDC TTT deals 100 dmg more over 3 mins contrary to all the claims of why clipping is bad, maybe I haven't perfected the off GCDs for H IDC P TTT)

But my point is this: H IDC P TTT doesn't use one extra cross class skill, which allows mercy stroke instead of fracture. Factor that additional off GCD skill in and H IDC P TTT should win by a little bit more (i mean 20% is not exactly a lot of time for you to cast a 90 second cooldown skill)

[Hakmatic]

Acc is overrated. I run coil 1-5 each week with 460 acc. During T5 Twins acc is lower than the first mini dragons and snakes. My bard just throws one rain of death for each of those and i dont miss. Same as our bard he runs 443 with food. We both miss 1 time in Turn 5 same we would miss if we was at 482 and it must be an autoattack that misses cause i never notice and combo or jump miss. I will be running with even lower acc this week just to test how low i can really go.

[Exa_Jyn]

Acc is overrated. I run coil 1-5 each week with 460 acc. During T5 Twins acc is lower than the first mini dragons and snakes. My bard just throws one rain of death for each of those and i dont miss. Same as our bard he runs 443 with food. We both miss 1 time in Turn 5 same we would miss if we was at 482 and it must be an autoattack that misses cause i never notice and combo or jump miss. I will be running with even lower acc this week just to test how low i can really go.

You are aware of these posts, yes?: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Reborn/page144

According to that, the required Accuracy to hit from Flank or Behind is 458

So yes, Melee players should aim for 460 or thereabouts:

Turn 5 http://pastie.org/private/qpfxgvdvj1hmlkxiwt5tq

Pre T5 with Extremes http://pastie.org/8614681#1

Pre-T5 without Extremes http://pastie.org/private/u93gaqcronr969rbbmh8q

[Hakmatic]

You are aware of these posts, yes?: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Reborn/page144

According to that, the required Accuracy to hit from Flank or Behind is 458

So yes, Melee players should aim for 460 or thereabouts:

Turn 5 http://pastie.org/private/qpfxgvdvj1hmlkxiwt5tq

Pre T5 with Extremes http://pastie.org/8614681#1

Pre-T5 without Extremes http://pastie.org/private/u93gaqcronr969rbbmh8q

Im simply stating that you dont need 470+ acc even if the flank theory was not accurate.

[Dervy]

A lot of us have always aimed for 663-ish before we knew about this "Different accuracy for different positions" stuff. And "Flank theory" is accurate, 100%. I have a lot of numbers proving this. Just collecting more data for different jobs atm. I won't have numbers for Twintania, but accuracy does vary from the position you're at.

[AugustusSB]

you never know what ilvl 100 would be like with the 4 new turns in CoB, and so on for ilvl 1XX... so until then it's more economical for buttons and sad face for black truffles harvesters

god /1k char

I'm not trying to make money here, im wondering why there is only a 1 point crit and determination difference between a lvl 47 recipe and a 2 star recipe...