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    Max Nightblade
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    Thanks so much Dervy - all great advice! I'm excited to put it to use. Thanks for the reassurance!
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    Ayvar Bjornstad
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    Ok. A couple caveats for this parse. First I could not hit 463 accuracy with my gear, so I settled for 466. It took me a bit to get LogRep finally working, however in one of our first two attempts I caught a miss on a small snake, so I added another point and bumped myself up to 467. I then restarted my parse, and was able to get a full 38mins until we killed Twintania. Sorry that the image is absolutely massive, but people requested individual ability numbers. Here are the results:



    This certainly doesn't confirm anything, but it suggests it may be somewhere in the 467 range since I did get a miss at 466. It would be nice if some other people could parse around 467 and we'll see if we can lock this down, I can't go again for another week.
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    Last edited by Ayvar; 01-10-2014 at 10:30 PM.
    Error 3102, 90000, 1017, 2002, 2/3 survivor

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    That is much more detailed, ty, but I meant only if there were misses should anyone post the attack-by-attack breakdown. 467... time for a new new new BiS list! haha It changes each time the sun rises and falls. I can do 463 acc with the gear i have, but i can't find 467. :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peptaru View Post
    but I meant only if there were misses should anyone post the attack-by-attack breakdown
    S'okay, it lets people see approximately how many hits were actually executed on each mob over the duration of the parse. I think that 38min encompasses about 4-5 attempts? I really can't remember.

    Also I got the spear at last. Which looks sweet on Roe's. So I've got that going for me.
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    Last edited by Ayvar; 01-10-2014 at 10:34 PM.
    Error 3102, 90000, 1017, 2002, 2/3 survivor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayvar View Post
    I got the spear at last. Which looks sweet on Roe's. So I've got that going for me.
    GRATS! Saw a Roe with it yesterday. Looks boss!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JetBrooks View Post
    GRATS! Saw a Roe with it yesterday. Looks boss!
    Rahh Rahh, I'll bet. He's a majestic creature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackThought View Post
    Rahh Rahh, I'll bet. He's a majestic creature.
    Yup! Cool dude, showed him how to jump on a couple things around Mor Dhona (the real endgame, if you ask me)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peptaru View Post
    That is much more detailed, ty, but I meant only if there were misses should anyone post the attack-by-attack breakdown. 467... time for a new new new BiS list! haha It changes each time the sun rises and falls. I can do 463 acc with the gear i have, but i can't find 467. :/
    I'm personally aiming for a 465 set. This way, you can use Buttons in Blanket's for every other content in the game, and switch to Button Mushroom Saute HQ to reach 472 accuracy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Migosha View Post
    The big advantage for using Deviled Eggs for T5 is that for everything else you'll use Buttons and get a better DPS than being stuck at 467 from your equipment alone.

    I'll try to meld food gestion in the spreadsheet to see if it can be part of the solver and see how much of a gain the Button's version is toward the Deviled.

    Use Button Mushroom Saute, not Deviled Eggs. %2 Accuracy (8 max), 5% Determination (13 max).
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    Last edited by Dervy; 01-11-2014 at 12:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    I'm personally aiming for a 465 set. This way, you can use Buttons in Blanket's for every other content in the game, and switch to Button Mushroom Saute HQ to reach 472 accuracy.
    Use Button Mushroom Saute, not Deviled Eggs. %2 Accuracy (8 max), 5% Determination (13 max).
    In fact the 2 cooking with "Buttons" in their name doesn't help when we talk about food by designating them with term "button".

    I redid the spreadsheet to take food into account. The 3 main choices being:
    - Buttons Mushroom Saute: 2% ACC (max 8) / 5% DET (max 13).
    - Deviled Eggs : 2% ACC (max 10) / 5% CRIT (max 24).
    - Buttons In a Blanket: 2% CRIT (max 10) / 5% DET (max 16).
    Oddly the bigest version of those food tends to be less good because they use a lower % bonus.

    If I try to solve for 466 or 467 ACC I'll have a result using Buttons Saute, Allagan Helm, and a few difference with the actual BiS, with a total of 468 ACC.
    If I try to solve for 468 to 470 ACC I'll have the BiS as a result, with a total of 470 ACC.
    And my spreadsheet do agree that the second version is more total score than the first one. Seems like OpenOffice got some strange behavior in its solver too. It looks like for the constraint "Final ACC >= XXX" it tries to have Final ACC not going farer than 2 from the XXX. I don't get it >.<
    There is not as much options in OO than in Excel, so I doubt I may have choose something wrong.
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    Since I don't have all the possible items I've been switching my gear around a lot as it comes around to try and find the "current best" and the reason why I'm trying to get the solver to work in OpenOffice but to no avail.

    But as I've been switching stuff I just noticed this set gives 468 acc with no food:

    This is not BiS, just 468acc if someone wants to test that value on parsers for T5.

    Weapon: Relic+1
    Head: Myth
    Body: Myth
    Hands: Myth
    Belt: Myth
    Legs: Myth
    Feet: Myth
    ...
    Neck: Allagan Striking
    Ears: Allagan Maiming
    Wrist: Myth
    Ring Left: Myth
    Ring Right: Allagan Maiming

    ACC 468 / CRIT 426 / DET 301 / SKL 438

    Switching to Allagan Bracelets of Striking + Vortex Ring of Striking (in place of Myth Ring) can also give 468acc with the rest of that set.
    ACC 468 / CRIT 453 / DET 279 / SKL 443

    So more available equipment options to reach that acc value for testing purposes if someone chooses.
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    Last edited by zeth07; 01-10-2014 at 04:55 PM.

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