Fall back and regroup: time for crafting autoleveller?

[Tiraelina]

You really don't know what mindless button mashing is if you think you can play any game doing that and get anywhere. XIV is the only game out there that fully supports mindless mashing of the enter key from 0-50 during the entire process and then reaping the rewards without any actual crafting. Battle and even Gathering on secondary nodes is more interactive than this mess.

There is absolutely nothing at all that you are learning from spam crafting the cheapest rank appropriate synth you have, that's like claiming you are learning how to play in a group having never done so. The amount work needed to put into ranking DoH is equal to zero, all of that lies on who gets the materials that are getting hideously undercut.

Crafting being a test of paitence is only your opinion. The fact of what it is right now is what you do when you have other things to do at the same time that are outside of the game. If not well welcome to being an extremely inefficient time waster. You don't start gathering and tab out spamming enter. You don't start a battle and tab out spamming enter.

Take your slippery slope BS elsewhere.

[Aenarion]

You don't start gathering and tab out spamming enter. You don't start a battle and tab out spamming enter.

That's right, and I do agree that the crafting system needs to be looked at, but peregrine's idea of turning the entire thing into an insta-bake oven purely out of spite is hardly the way to do it.

[Physic]

That's right, and I do agree that the crafting system needs to be looked at, but peregrine's idea of turning the entire thing into an insta-bake oven purely out of spite is hardly the way to do it.

they (SE official response) want it to be easier, i hope by easier they mean less sitting at the keys spamming enter, and not more spamming enter. A manufacturing system that doesnt produce direct items might be answer to having both the artisan crafter and the crafter who just wants to manage crafts and turn profits.

[Peregrine]

That's right, and I do agree that the crafting system needs to be looked at, but peregrine's idea of turning the entire thing into an insta-bake oven purely out of spite is hardly the way to do it.

Easy bake oven's worthless if you can't afford the ingredients.
Maybe you like to mindlessly spam cheap mats because you know you could never cut an XI system where crafters can show the money and blow through 100 levels of something that took you a year and a half to afford in 4 weeks.

Don't drag everyone down to drone status just for the opportunity to keep up.

[Aenarion]

Easy bake oven's worthless if you can't afford the ingredients.
Maybe you like to mindlessly spam cheap mats because you know you could never cut an XI system where crafters can show the money and blow through 100 levels of something that took you a year and a half to afford in 4 weeks.

Don't drag everyone down to drone status just for the opportunity to keep up.

YES!, MOAR ad hominem plz! need more delicious troll tear


also, time to come out and just admit you hate crafting but love gathering, it's pretty obvious to anyone with half a braincell left still.

[Mortikhan]

You really don't know what mindless button mashing is if you think you can play any game doing that and get anywhere. XIV is the only game out there that fully supports mindless mashing of the enter key from 0-50 during the entire process and then reaping the rewards without any actual crafting. Battle and even Gathering on secondary nodes is more interactive than this mess.

There is absolutely nothing at all that you are learning from spam crafting the cheapest rank appropriate synth you have, that's like claiming you are learning how to play in a group having never done so. The amount work needed to put into ranking DoH is equal to zero, all of that lies on who gets the materials that are getting hideously undercut.

Crafting being a test of paitence is only your opinion. The fact of what it is right now is what you do when you have other things to do at the same time that are outside of the game. If not well welcome to being an extremely inefficient time waster. You don't start gathering and tab out spamming enter. You don't start a battle and tab out spamming enter.

Take your slippery slope BS elsewhere.

Well then show me a crafting system that is not the same. FFXI was the same. WoW the same. It is all a series of key strokes that can be botted or mindlessly repeated. People find ways to circumvent what they are supposed to do in every MMO. I have yet to see a "bot proof" or "RMT proof" game. Just because one person does it does not mean that everyone does it. If you want it changed so Enter can't be spammed ok I am down with that (I thought we had that with the original system) but auto leveling it would be no different. Make it a more complicated sequence if you want. It really does not matter to me because I don't spam out the Enter key anyway. If I was doing that I would have wasted my time picking up guildmark abilities.

If your definition of "interactive" is based on movement...well that's just sad. Beyond movement there is nothing more to the battle system (and they are going to make that easier). Hell, I don't even need to press that many keys anymore...just macro it up and go to town. Although I give searching for nodes for gathering a higher grade since that at least requires a little "Marco/Polo" game to get that done but once you start on a point it is no different unless you are trying to find something specific and I completely exclude fishing from this compliment. Those people spamming Enter are not very interactive I agree but you are given a menu with choices. Their choice not to use it is their loss. Sometimes I have to wait out a Lightning or Ice element to see if it will become stable or select an ability that would suit a situation best. There is an art to it and most spammers and botters will not pick that up.

As far as my "slippery slope BS" as you put it. LOL LMAO ROFLMAO. I am not here to teach you life lessons. Your life is not that important to me. People keep asking for things to make tasks easier in this game. Then they get pissed off when someone finds a way to exploit it. WE WANT A SEARCH FUNCTION FOR THE MARKET WARDS. The reason why all the crap on the wards are getting undercut because now people can see all the prices. WE WANT AUTO ATTACK. Now everyone can look like a bot while farming/SPing mobs. Woot I can't wait. WE WANT THE CRAFTING SYSTEM TO BE MORE SMOOTH SO GIVE US A RECIPE SYSTEM FOR REPEAT SYNTHS AND A WAY TO AUTO REPEAT LEVE SYNTHS. You betcha fight fans ^.^b. Now here we are talking about fixes for a system people ASKED for. I will be more than happy to stop talking about "slippery slopes" when people (including SE) start thinking some of this crap through before they implement it.