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    Quote Originally Posted by Shioban View Post
    You'd think so, but sadly not.

    Adjusting gear to fit a lalafell Roegadyn is already a task of its own never mind having to do the same again for the females once a new version of the model is made.

    If the assets didn't take so long to produce from scratch it'd be feasible, but in this case it'd take a fair bit of work to make it happen.
    But they're not from scratch, as they have the models from FFXIII; they just have to adjust them. >_> And how do you know how very long it took SE to make these things? I highly doubt you're employed there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    But they're not from scratch, as they have the models from FFXIII; they just have to adjust them. >_> And how do you know how very long it took SE to make these things? I highly doubt you're employed there.
    I work in 3D Design, I don't have to work for Square Enix to understand the workflow.

    Sadly it's not as simple as "Pull these polygons to make boobs!"

    Even just to get these models into ARR took a ton of work to "Import" it essentially, the work-flow I can assure you isn't as simple as "drag and drop" a lot of remodelling, texturing and rigging takes place.
    For all of the models in XIII and ARR, they work from a High-detailed model then apply those details to a lower detailed model, to make large topological adjustments you would need to go back to the High Poly model and make your adjustments from there which would be no easy feat.

    For Snows outfit adjusting it to fit a female shape would NOT be an easy task. The overall body shape of a woman is different, including but not exclusive to the shape of the shoulders, waist, legs and calves. This would be a pretty large task for the XIII and ARR development team to adjust the model to suit this, more so than it's worth in time.

    Consider the work load;

    Male: Hyur: Midlander, Highlander | Miqo'te | Roedayn | Elezen | Lalafell

    Female: Hyur: Midlander, Highlander | Miqo'te | Roedayn | Elezen | Lalafell

    That's 12 model adjustments, to make the other counterparts would be a total of 24 adjustments ontop of the model redesign for snows outfit.


    This is a lot of work for a quick promotional event, which probably took a month or two to even finish what they had done.


    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    But they're not from scratch
    A female model would in some cases essentially be working from scratch, adjusting the model without the original high-poly version would make it VERY difficult to adjust.



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    You don't need to work for SE to understand the workflow.

    Snow is male, to make his outfit work on a female body would take a lot of work, there are a huge number of difference in the shape for men and women that would require adjusting and this would eat up a lot more time than it'd be worth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shioban View Post
    Snow is male, to make his outfit work on a female body would take a lot of work, there are a huge number of difference in the shape for men and women that would require adjusting and this would eat up a lot more time than it'd be worth.
    It would require more in the sense that it would be ten race/gender combinations rather than just the five races.
    But a female Hyur, Elezen, or Rogadyn are all closer to Snow's body shape than a male Lalafell is. They made a decision that giving Snow's outfit to players of male Lalafell characters was more important than giving it to players of female Hyur characters. I think a better decision would have been to offer Lightning's outfit to everyone and leave Snow's outfit out of it altogether if they didn't have time to fit them both to everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    It would require more in the sense that it would be ten race/gender combinations rather than just the five races.
    But a female Hyur, Elezen, or Rogadyn are all closer to Snow's body shape than a male Lalafell is. They made a decision that giving Snow's outfit to players of male Lalafell characters was more important than giving it to players of female Hyur characters. I think a better decision would have been to offer Lightning's outfit to everyone and leave Snow's outfit out of it altogether if they didn't have time to fit them both to everyone.

    Teensy bit late for that now sadly.

    All we can ask for is to get a method of exchanging it now.
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