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    Quote Originally Posted by wind View Post
    If AA is triggered and a spell is done roughly at the same time, you're correct the spell will supersede AA but as soon as that cast is done, AA will finish(if AA doesn't reset timers, which majority of games it doesn't).
    That's why a skill will buffer another skill. Just like SATA in thfs or any number of skill stacking we're so used to.

    You don't need to time one spell -the instant- after another, as long as it's done within a similar period, the CureI will buffer into cureII will buffer into cureIII until you're out of spells, which then AA will proc.

    Then there's the "mashing" trick, we're also used to doing. if you are casting cureIV and spam stun button, the stun will always go right after your cureIV. AA will never proc because the system is registering an overiding skill.

    I just don't see a situation except in the extreme case where AA will get in the way. It'll have to be dumb luck that at the exact moment someone needs that spell/skill ASAP, AA gets in the way out of nowhere. (The old crap SATA mess up - haha try jamming it)
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    That's why a skill will buffer another skill. Just like SATA in thfs or any number of skill stacking we're so used to.
    Ya but most of the time THF's would wait for the AA to finish and do it in between the swing timer so that it wouldnt hurt. For most 'skill stacking' thats also true. You wait for the AA to finish THEN do your rotation (SATA Dancing Edge :P).
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    Rofl this all started with mage(range) should/shouldn't get AA. So guess we should just conclude this before we keep going in different tangets haha.

    Seems like we both have good points and we both cant be sure as to how the new system will work. If its laggy like now then I still believe that Ranged AA wouldn't be that justified.

    If they fix up the lag issues since it appears they were talking about server upgrades and core programming etc in a couple Mod posts then having Ranged AA wouldn't be a harm you're right.

    Also don't see the actual "need" for them to have it but it would be a moot point since it wouldn't harm anything either.
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    Last edited by wind; 06-17-2011 at 09:49 AM.

  3. 06-17-2011 09:42 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonMega View Post
    "We Win" "Now Get Over It"... man it never stops with you
    Why beat around the bush.
    Straight fowards is my way =/ Like it or Not IDC, and thats not just my way in a damn internet forum, most have 2 persona's I'm just 1 way, real.
    Soooo...
    You'll be ok, trust me.
    Btw who are you? O.o;
    Ok bye!
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    Last edited by Shikyo; 06-17-2011 at 10:16 AM.

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    I'm excited for Auto-Attack I can now be truly lazy but look like I'm doing something... Everyone will be none the wiser....
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    Really? you guys bi*** and bi*** about auto attack and wanting it so bad now that you have it you complaining that it may be like FFXI?

    Is having ffxi auto attack but done better a bad idea? no not at all have you saw how bad ass the WS are looking? beside pug -.- they look the same which am really sad about.

    anyways i can care less how AA is as long as Monk get some good WS and the delay is not that bad.
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    Pretty much

    Quote Originally Posted by Sephr View Post
    DoM...? Really?

    The whole 'swinging at the air' spirit/phantom dart auto attack they have sucks pretty bad, I was kinda hoping they'd be adjusted to compensate in other ways for not having one.
    Ya I can see this as a nuisance and not any benefit. The stamina bar removal helps DoM, but really I think that's pretty universal.

    I think lowering/removing the cooldown of Tier I spells (their auto-attack) would be far better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonMega View Post
    Haven't seen all your posts, just the ones i see looking though the threads but the ones i've seen have all been along the line that the switch to AA was some competition and there are winners and losers, yeah main reason i liked the current system is because it was not AA and thats about it, it had no tactics and alot of spamming but it was porely implemented and did not get any real work after the UI vamp up, but after playing FFXI for 7 years off and on AA concept is rather boring just to think about, either way the AA will bring a quick fix from a proven concept from about 10+ years ago LOL but in the end we all lose because at the very basic and most important part of an MMORPG "In my opinion" we now get Final Fanatsy XI-2 not Final Fantasy XIV. I agree i'll be fine until they start asking for money then i'll have to see what we all got by then. But seriously we all know we're get AA so is there really a need to say things like that.
    Its just funny to me because all the loyalist attacked ppl so hard everyone is all are idiots when anyone mentioned a change, and now its going to change. I like the change, like you said if you dont when it happens dont play.

    Thats exactly what I got from thoes that wanted the game to stay aweful and fail, i'm just repeating it.
    So again thoes that dont like AA... get over it or turn around and walk away, its that simple.

    I had a post a while back about the best part of 1.18 wont be in the game but on the forums where the like 10-15 hard core loyalist to the failed systems in this game have a emotional break down like some lil B's and emo quit, if SE changes things because they listened to the majority of the fans roars.
    So yes like the underdog that knocks out a big fat cheesy poof eating carple tunnel syndrome A$$, its extra sweet to me, if you dont like that I say it, um... so what.
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    Last edited by Shikyo; 06-17-2011 at 01:00 PM. Reason: typo

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    I think he meant "carpal" tunnel system, and not "copper"
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    ty zav.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    - Attack speed will differ based on the weapon used by each class
    /ragequit

    Really, screw 2handers in this game too?

    I know it's not out yet and the LNC in the video wasn't swinging slow but still scares me that we are getting 480 delay axes on MRD.

    Poor botanist bastards, they are getting 528 delay on their scythes.
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