Stop "fixing" the MW scrap it

[Sonic_the_Hedgehog]

Someone had a good compromise earlier, let the people that want to buy their items from the menu be charged double or triple amount the item costs with a percentage going to the retainer owner and the ones willing to buy directly from the retainer get charged the normal amount.

[Viridiana]

Someone had a good compromise earlier, let the people that want to buy their items from the menu be charged double or triple amount the item costs with a percentage going to the retainer owner and the ones willing to buy directly from the retainer get charged the normal amount.

Double or triple is a good compromise for not wanting to deal with a flawed system?

[Eldaena]

It's been two weeks. More importantly, those crashes would never occur or would be extremely rare with a text based interface. The MW servers, in addition to handling item and transaction information, have to store and process graphics information. It's painfully obvious that it's not a good system if you could have ~100 NPCs in a tight zone, and then tack on a probable ~100 players.

Those are light numbers. Although at this rate I highly doubt it -- if this game ever becomes popular, you're going to have THOUSANDS of retainers and THOUSANDS of people that need to use the market wards, not just the ~600 that exist now. Hardware has limitations. It's not a scalable system.



Zoning becomes a problem when 1. you have a big grocery list of things that you need to buy, and 2. if you're playing on a slower machine. It's an overhead that's not very noticeable for one or two item purchases, but when you get to 10+, it becomes a big hindrance.



Instead of encouraging people and not succeeding, they could have just FORCED items to be automatically categorized. When you no longer have to place your zombie in a zone, the queries that retrieve its inventory no longer needs to check if it's in the right zone or not. Lances will always be found under the "Weapons" category, cloth pieces under the "Weaving supplies" category, etc. The organization structure that's in place right now barely even has an effect; I purchased a Bone Hora from the Clothiers Ward last night and lance from the Mender's Ward. It's stupid and pointless.



The search that's available now is bare minimum search functionality. Take a look at what other games' trade searches offer. Freeform text searching, searching between levels, searching based on quality, and searching based on job/class. ALL of this IN ADDITION TO having the drop down menu/menu levels that MW already has. There's also the whole business of having to run back to the entrance to stop searching, and then start a new search if you want a new item. Compare that to just typing in another item's name or browsing the tree menu down to another item and getting them directly from the menu.



That doesn't even begin to describe my feelings toward the continued support that MW gets, but thanks.

I'm not sure what to say. You have several annoyances with it, but to be honest, to me it seems nit-picky. I guess when you are a player of a currently free mmo you feel entitled to certain things, and I hope for you and myself in the future the changes to the MW will satisfy you. If not, I'm not sure what to tell you. I do not think they will get rid of the MW anytime soon.

[Sonic_the_Hedgehog]

Double or triple is a good compromise for not wanting to deal with a flawed system?

That's the price you pay for convenience. If you order something off Amazon.com and you want it faster, you get one day shipping right? That's not free and it costs more.

[Eldaena]

Someone had a good compromise earlier, let the people that want to buy their items from the menu be charged double or triple amount the item costs with a percentage going to the retainer owner and the ones willing to buy directly from the retainer get charged the normal amount.

I never said double or triple the amount, lol just a shipping tax of sorts. That would be way too high a cost just to buy from the menu.

[Sephr]

I'm not sure what to say. You have several annoyances with it, but to be honest, to me it seems nit-picky. I guess when you are a player of a currently free mmo you feel entitled to certain things, and I hope for you and myself in the future the changes to the MW will satisfy you. If not, I'm not sure what to tell you. I do not think they will get rid of the MW anytime soon.

Is that despite the general hatred seen in game reviews, and the fact that Yoshida's list even says they're reviewing an auction house system?

Seriously, the level of stupidity of the comments supporting the MWs baffle me. Kilta's trying to suggest that it's faster than an auction house (although as someone who says she played 12 hours a day for 6-7 years on FFXI, it's clear she's happy to totally waste her time), and then we have people saying gems such as "Zoning in MWs is a good thing, last I heard people like zoning!"

Literally unbelievable.

Someone had a good compromise earlier, let the people that want to buy their items from the menu be charged double or triple amount the item costs with a percentage going to the retainer owner and the ones willing to buy directly from the retainer get charged the normal amount.

How is that a compromise. People. Should. Not. Be. Punished. For. Wanting. To. Play. The. Game.

Fighting through a shitty ward system isn't what I'd class as playing, grabbing what I need and leaving the city to go kill stuff, is.

I never said double or triple the amount, lol just a shipping tax of sorts. That would be way too high a cost just to buy from the menu.

Honestly I think I'm just going to ignore Sonic, either he's trolling pretty bad, or he really is totally out of touch and unable to look at the situation this game is in remotely objectively.

[Viridiana]

That's the price you pay for convenience. If you order something off Amazon.com and you want it faster, you get one day shipping right? That's not free and it costs more.

Funny, I don't see any shipping options under Amazon that I would call a flawed system. The same can't be said for the market wards. I don't mind things taking time. I mind when they're fundamentally flawed and no one wants to fix them.

[Sonic_the_Hedgehog]

I never said double or triple the amount, lol just a shipping tax of sorts. That would be way too high a cost just to buy from the menu.

Ok, not double or triple, but percentage would be good like 25 or 50.

[Chezen]

Double or triple is a good compromise for not wanting to deal with a flawed system?

No, for not using (and I'm kicking myself for saying this), what is working as intended. The Market Wards could use some tlc, no arguement there. But as Sonic said, they are meant to be market wards.

(Double or triple the item cost is a wee bit more than what I was thinking though...)

[Demacia]

You guys are seriously responding to this clown huh?

Well so much for this thread. Apparently players should be punished for avoiding a blatantly flawed market system.