Common Courtesy with End-game Raids/Dungeons

[Hitome]

I'm fine with people not watching videos for any of the dungeons, up to Pharos Sirius and Labyrinth of the Ancients. If I am experienced enough compared to the rest of the party, even for primals or Coil, I'd take some time aside and explain stuff to them. Not clearing after 10 or 15 attempts will get to me as well. But under 10 attempts, I am willing to teach people who are willing to learn the fight.

Call me stupid for helping a DF party learn Siren by wiping 70 minutes at it, and still eventually failing the duty. Sure I got frustrated a few times. But in the end, I hoped that I at least helped these people to be more familiar with the fight. And that's all I really aim for. I feel that I have a duty to the help improve the community in any way I can, which is why I did not just up and leave after 2 wipes. It would have been all the more satisfying had we actually cleared it.

Everyone here just goes on and on about how bad players are - have you actually done anything to improve this situation at all? Shunning new players for "not watching videos", sure doesn't help. Not everyone learns by watching videos, I am the sort who learns by hands-on experience. Funny how people complain about bad players, but not helping to actually help those bad players become good players. It's like teachers on the first day of school complaining why their students did not finish reading the entire textbook before the first day of class.

No I haven't done anything.

Except sat in DF HM Titan pre 2.1 for hours upon hours helping new players to the fight. I didn't care what kind of gear they had, what prior experience they had, or anything else. I had no expectations: it was Titan HM in a DF group. I did not attempt to teach the new players: just let them experience it for the first time. Know how many fights I won prior to 2.1 in DF? Three. Three out of 108 fights.

Now, if the players in those 111 groups had taken the time to do their research ahead of time, come prepared to the fight with the appropriate food and gear, and asked for advice if they were new, I imagine the success rate would be higher than ~2.8%. Post 2.1, the success rate is perhaps 10-15% due to the mandatory ilevel. This is basically saying, "OK guys: this is the minimum level of gear you should have before entering this. If you're very good at this game, this is all you will ever need."

What it is also saying is, "If you wipe consistently with this ilevel, you probably shouldn't be here and should be gearing up."

Yes, not everyone learns by videos. I assume many were able to get a little bit of experience in all of those fights even after dying so much. However, as you can see by the success rate, doing your research is probably a wise idea.

I assume many of those players in the failed DF Titan HM groups are some of the ones posting in this thread. There really is no excuse you can give that will cover up your laziness.

When you wander into our PF/shout groups, at least you won't need to know the reason why you were booted. You can simply blame yourself for being lazy and unprepared.




Many of your reactions to doing research on a fight beforehand speak about your actions in the real world. Are you also an irresponsible student who does not read the chapter(s) before going to class to discuss them? Are you an irresponsible adult who doesn't do any research on a company before an interview with that company? My guess would be yes.