Fall back and regroup: time for crafting autoleveller?

[Peregrine]

lol Peregrine you're wrong when you say gathering bots can't go from node to node on their own. These bots can set paths. I've seen it at the sea hare camp (the camp with 4 in one room and 3 round the corner). The dude had his bot clearing the 4 in the main area and then running to the other 3 and back. 100% wasn't a real player due to the way it was acting. Even saw it disengage from a mob and run after another one a few times.

I'm not sure if the gathering bot could create its own paths however for example after the initial nodes exhaust themselves. But if you gather in an area people rarely gather like Coerthas you could just use the 4 node trick to keep the same rotation going forever.

But I agree that GMs should be monitoring crap like that, it's way easy to spot a bot that has to move than one that stays rooted spamming enter.



I already have fun making finished items. To make a Jade Crook I have to use branches +3 that I get from botany, acid that I get when farming coral for crab bows and I have to get hold of spoken blood which is surprisingly hard. Then I've got to craft the other pieces. When I begin the main synth I've got to ensure I have the right skills set, use them at the right time and manage any unstable elements. I've also got to decide how much durability to keep. Of course some douche this week decided the Jade Crook market shouldn't exist and killed it but that's besides the point.

I agree grinding craft is the most boring thing ever. I've been doing it tonight and it feels like I'm not even playing the game. Between each standard click I can type half a sentence on these forums and I have the game and my browser windowed in a way that gives me quick access to the crafting window, half the screen for the browser and half for the game. Something needs to change but I don't want it to be any easier to get to 50.

No, YOU are wrong. The paths the shard bots take are simplistic patterns meant to pick up and detect new selectable targets on their screen so they don't get stuck facing a wall with no targets. They can't run from node to node. You don't understand what the shard bots are trying to do. That it can move rooms is only a consequence of it hooking onto something. It doesn't work for gathering.

Some douche didn't decide the jade crook market shouldn't exist. That market never had a chance. It is by far the easiest spammable garbage HQ out there. YOU were going to run out of conjurers eventually. +3 or NPC. That is the ONLY endgame of a system that focuses on the things this one does. Like the devs said, redefine what you focus on. If you're a bubble riding crafter, or a best HQ of the best gear spammer, you're going to run out of market. You don't have a business plan. You have a golddigging boom and bust mentality. That's not crafting.

If they take cheap materials away from drone crafters, it'll be harder to get to 50. If they don't let everyone and their mother basically spam enter to their way to a basically free R50 craft, it'll be harder.

Autolevelling actually makes it harder to get to 50. Again, right now no one pays for materials, because crafters automatically count the cost of time it takes to turn them into something useful as a DISCOUNT on goods.

[TheVedis]

No, YOU are wrong. The paths the shard bots take are simplistic patterns meant to pick up and detect new selectable targets on their screen so they don't get stuck facing a wall with no targets. They can't run from node to node. You don't understand what the shard bots are trying to do. That it can move rooms is only a consequence of it hooking onto something. It doesn't work for gathering.

listen to him, he has first hand experience using these programs

[syntaxlies]

You sure do know a lot about bots

No, YOU are wrong. The paths the shard bots take are simplistic patterns meant to pick up and detect new selectable targets on their screen so they don't get stuck facing a wall with no targets. They can't run from node to node. You don't understand what the shard bots are trying to do. That it can move rooms is only a consequence of it hooking onto something. It doesn't work for gathering.

Some douche didn't decide the jade crook market shouldn't exist. That market never had a chance. It is by far the easiest spammable garbage HQ out there. YOU were going to run out of conjurers eventually. +3 or NPC. That is the ONLY endgame of a system that focuses on the things this one does. Like the devs said, redefine what you focus on. If you're a bubble riding crafter, or a best HQ of the best gear spammer, you're going to run out of market. You don't have a business plan. You have a golddigging boom and bust mentality. That's not crafting.

If they take cheap materials away from drone crafters, it'll be harder to get to 50. If they don't let everyone and their mother basically spam enter to their way to a basically free R50 craft, it'll be harder.

Autolevelling actually makes it harder to get to 50. Again, right now no one pays for materials, because crafters automatically count the cost of time it takes to turn them into something useful as a DISCOUNT on goods.

[Peregrine]

You sure do know a lot about bots

Better to know the biggest threat in the game than not know it.
Every player should know the current state of botting of their MMO.