Dark Knight

[yondaimeflash]

Annnd that is why I am fairly sure we wont be seeing the scythe as a weapon.

Lol why do you say that because all Botanist is is a small axe user. I will deal with it if the drk uses a 2 handed sword but I hope to god he doesn't the 2 handed sword just isn't appealing to me at all its ugly if anything give him a sword and shield or scythe.

[Bloodclaw]

Lol why do you say that because all Botanist is is a small axe user. I will deal with it if the drk uses a 2 handed sword but I hope to god he doesn't the 2 handed sword just isn't appealing to me at all its ugly if anything give him a sword and shield or scythe.

It is their 2ndary tool. I also think it will be greatsword to try and draw in the FFVII crowd more.

[Exstal]

Don't get me wrong, I am well versed in the scythe and it history. I can understand that, but you have to look at symbolism and esthetics too. This game (You have lost it) pulls a lot from mythos from various cultures and the symbol of death, as in the grim reaper here matches up with the idea of a DRK rather well. I don't think the DRG artifact armor is too practical by these same standards.

Grim Reaper actually matches up with Necromancer much better than it every could with Dark Knight. The only way scythe could be feasible as a weapon is if it was bladed on both sides of the blade.

If SE decides not to make DRK a tank, I want it to have 1 handed sword and that's it. They can use their free hand to use their blood abilities and use their sword hand with extreme precision, kind of like sword masters would.

It is their 2ndary tool. I also think it will be greatsword to try and draw in the FFVII crowd more.

Except Cloud was more of a Warrior/Fighter than a Dark Knight. Wouldn't make a whole lot of sense. Greatsword is FFX-2 crowd.

[Ragnirok]

Except the DRK is a dark knight and not a death knight. There is a difference. DRK is closer to a blood mage and scythe wouldn't match the mythos at all. The only reason why people want it to be a scythe is XI made DRK use a scythe. 2H sword would be cool. 1h sword would be cool too but not as cool. scythe would be stupid.

[SkyHighDN]

I prefer the 1 handed sword and shield.... Bring it back to Cecil!!!!

BUT!!!!! It has to be a completely different sword and shield line than the Paladin....

I want a Blood Sword, I want the Ancient Blade, I want the Avenger, I want elemental swords, Hades Blade... I want a whole new line of Swords, not able to be wielded by the PLD.... maybe something like the exist swords stay GLD/PLD, and the new ones go GLD/DRK only...

Same for the shields.. and preferably shields that have a visual spike on them like Viking shields, that can be used offensively

[Sylari]

Only problem I have with the 2h sword idea is how many other theoretical jobs might line up with that weapon loadout (plus I personally find it unlikely a 2h sword class will be up anytime soon simply for thematic reasons).

Regarding Marauder I like how a lot of the design elements line up and from an aesthetic standpoint the attitudes of the marauders sort of bleeds into dark knights pretty well.

Regarding Gladiator I think the main push here is that you can set up some sort of dualit concept, the gladiator splits into the "light" class and the "dark class".

Having too many defensive cooldowns is a problem, but keep in mind the could always do to them what the did to the carbuncles for Scholar: Equipping the job crystal fundamentally changes how those abilities work.

I want a Blood Sword, I want the Ancient Blade, I want the Avenger, I want elemental swords, Hades Blade... I want a whole new line of Swords, not able to be wielded by the PLD.... maybe something like the exist swords stay GLD/PLD, and the new ones go GLD/DRK only...

That's probably really likely. I mean summoners and scholars don't share books either.

[Gamemako]

That's probably really likely. I mean summoners and scholars don't share books either.

That's because they don't share stats. A Dark Knight would likely be STR-focused and would have no need to use different weapons; the current ones have STR and would do just fine. They would not need to create an additional piece of equipment.

[Sylari]

That's because they don't share stats. A Dark Knight would likely be STR-focused and would have no need to use different weapons; the current ones have STR and would do just fine. They would not need to create an additional piece of equipment.

And if they were really worried about not wanting extra pieces of gear they'd just put Int and Mnd on every book (they already do this for a lot of mid level items and a few i70 pieces. The second mainstat is unbugeted). It's still a design choice.

[Gamemako]

And if they were really worried about not wanting extra pieces of gear they'd just put Int and Mnd on every book (they already do this for a lot of mid level items and a few i70 pieces. The second mainstat is unbugeted). It's still a design choice.

Quite the opposite; that's done for balance reasons. If you had unified caster and healer gear, then your average BLM would Physick for 800. This is avoided by limiting access to MND. Unified pieces are limited to low-stat accessories 20 item levels behind.

[Bloodclaw]

Grim Reaper actually matches up with Necromancer much better than it every could with Dark Knight.

FYI scythes were actually used in actual battle before. So it is not totally out of reason in a fantasy game a melee combatant to use one.

Except Cloud was more of a Warrior/Fighter than a Dark Knight. Wouldn't make a whole lot of sense. Greatsword is FFX-2 crowd.

Wait what?? Do you listen to yourself? Please explain your reasoning. We have a very large two handed sword and visually that is all people need to equate to a Solder from FF-VII.