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  1. #31
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    CHunterX's Avatar
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    Rin Tezuka
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiriA500 View Post
    Which Dragoon abilities cannot be done if not executed from behind? I'm not talking the higher potency either, I mean which ones cannot be used at all. Looking at my Dragoon list now, I'm not seeing a single one.
    I know you're being intentionally ignorant, but the entire Impulse Drive combo line simply will not work without a back to attack, meaning a straight 10% damage loss to the DRG (and any BRDs) and the loss of a 500 potency attack.

    If you honestly think making two attacks 100 potency for an entire encounter is anywhere in the realm of "it's still usable guys!" then you must be trolling.
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  2. #32
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    Eardstapa's Avatar
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    Edward Volcdegen
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by KiriA500 View Post
    Which Dragoon abilities cannot be done if not executed from behind? I'm not talking the higher potency either, I mean which ones cannot be used at all. Looking at my Dragoon list now, I'm not seeing a single one.

    EDIT:
    Ah, Impulse Drive has to proc from behind to initiate the next part of the combo. I never play DRG, so I was unaware of this. None of MNK's combos have this. I see where DRG will have issues with this fight. Hopefully this gets fixed before 2.2.
    Chaos Thrust combo.
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  3. #33
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    axemtitanium's Avatar
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    Titania Basilikos
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    lol @ thread assuming melees are useless in a fight that hasn't even been released yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skies View Post
    Or hell, who says that Leviathan's back needs to be in the same place his front is?
    Have you seen how long he is? Could well be head and tail are different targets and the tail always has the back facing towards the party from a different direction. It'd have some eventual tail swipe attacks while the head does most of the heavy damage.

    He moves them around the ship, the tank tries to keep the head on him so he doesn't obliterates the party while the DPS focus on the tail.
    I'm with this guy. Leviathan's tail will probably be a separate target that ALWAYS gives the rear attack bonus (dragoon OP much?).
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  4. #34
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    Lyote Sharaia
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiriA500 View Post
    Yet, after all that stuff, they're still able to do damage! Huzzah, Eorzea is saved!

    To the bolded part:


    You would have to halt your DPS to wait for his rear attack to go off if you planned on doing it every time. It's more beneficial to just spam from the side where it's safe.
    Wait .. are we playing the same game? I manage to get my True Strikes off just fine through the entire fight. Baiting the tail swipe is part of the fight, and I'll always bait it with the Dragon Kick animation or ToD or Fracture. To date, I have never** mistimed a rear attack in that fight and gotten creamed.

    **Except my very first time in there when the explaining dude explained the fight in Spanish then pulled >_>

    Quote Originally Posted by axemtitanium View Post
    lol @ thread assuming melees are useless in a fight that hasn't even been released yet.



    I'm with this guy. Leviathan's tail will probably be a separate target that ALWAYS gives the rear attack bonus (dragoon OP much?).
    Huh? You'll be OP because you can ... Impulse Drive//Disembowel//Chaos Thrust whenever you want? Just like ... Now?
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    Last edited by Sylve; 01-29-2014 at 04:31 PM.

  5. #35
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    Yukihko Kuroshima
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    With all that kicking and water spitting, I wonder if it isnt best to have 6 aromred OffTanks and 2 Healers?
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    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

  6. #36
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    Aeryn Zael
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    Are you guys seriously complaining a fight that we know ALMOST NOTHING ABOUT?
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  7. #37
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    Lafiel Abriel
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    Tonberry
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    I think it's pretty obvious that is one of those phase preset animation....Just like every other primal. i.e. OMG HOW ARE WE GOING TO ATTACK TITAN IF HE JUMPS OFF THE SCREEN.
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  8. #38
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    Zanon Reeves
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    I bet the fight will start off the tank gets hate while ranged attacks make him fall onto the boat and melee attack him till he goes back into ranged attack mode.

    Seems like a good idea how the fight would be if he is out in the water or she I don't know what gender the water summon is.
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  9. #39
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiriA500 View Post
    Yet, after all that stuff, they're still able to do damage! Huzzah, Eorzea is saved!

    To the bolded part:



    You would have to halt your DPS to wait for his rear attack to go off if you planned on doing it every time. It's more beneficial to just spam from the side where it's safe.
    Funny... I killed that snake today and it was never impossible for me to hit the rear of the snakes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    DPS loss? maybe
    Major? I doubt it. There are still side attacks
    Removing the two hardest hitting direct damage abilities from monk would totally not be a major hit to damage...
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  10. #40
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    Casper Theghost
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    Rogue Lv 50
    Second one to 5 of the video you can very clearly see the tail of Leviathan as a separate target. I fail to see the problem. Some people are such drama queens.
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