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  1. #91
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    Duelle's Avatar
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Asael View Post
    Says who? Where was it ever mentioned that enrage in T2 is supposed to be a game-ender?
    Every enrage implemented in every game ever. Enrages tend to give you at the most a couple of seconds to get the kill in if you're 1-5% away from the win, then the raid dies. Either because of a massive damage spike, a one-shot-kill-all attack or the room blowing up. The point of the enrage is that if you failed to meet the requirements to avoid it you are going to die and have to start over.

    Alhanelem is right in saying this is poor implementation. I also wouldn't attach myself too much to the CM post on this, as the devs also said Dark Devices was fine and there were no plans to change it, and then Dark Devices was adjusted.
    (3)
    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

  2. #92
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    RoninDarkchild's Avatar
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    Ronin Woofcub
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    Excalibur
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    I will NEVER understand why people are so concerned with what someone else is doing, when it doesnt concern them in any way. Why Should I care what some random party that Im not even in is doing? Uggh...
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    Not enough Facepalms

  3. #93
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    Peptaru's Avatar
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    Tarragon Lai
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    Every enrage implemented in every game ever.
    Except for FFXIV, the only one that matters here. 99% of games is not 100% of games.
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  4. #94
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    CUTS3R's Avatar
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    F'lhinna Kutseru
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Enrage mode should have been like that Ultima move from Ultima weapon or Odin's Zantestsuken. You either kill ADS before he gets a chance to enrage or instantly wipe, simple as that.
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  5. #95
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    ZeroHigh's Avatar
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    Zero Bee
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    Midgardsormr
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by RoninDarkchild View Post
    I will NEVER understand why people are so concerned with what someone else is doing, when it doesnt concern them in any way. Why Should I care what some random party that Im not even in is doing? Uggh...
    This. I don't see why its such a big deal for some people lol. OMG, people are clearing T2 easier than my friends I were 2 months ago, PATCH! Seriously, do whatever works and make you feel better. My friends and I have cleared it both ways, it doesn't make anyone better/lesser of a player. Also, we intentionally let cad join back together and kite it(last week) sometimes because we get bored, and if your tank can kite (Stoneskin is key) with good healers, its actually easier. *GASP* Broken mechanics, PATCH! They gave us a fight, players found a strategy around it that works for them. Shouldn't you promote player creativity with different strategies, rather than just shoving it into a corner and letting the game/others tell you how you should play?
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    Last edited by ZeroHigh; 01-21-2014 at 07:28 PM.

  6. #96
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    DenzelTaru's Avatar
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    Denzel Taru
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 51
    Turn 2 annoys me a little, cos my party is very capable in doing it the normal way, we 2 shot it the other week for instance (which is great for a newly formed FC static) but, because the option is there to just mindlessly hit it with overhealing, we do it.. cos its too convenient.. if there is a winding path to the left taking you from A to B then someone just builds a bridge between A to B, you're gonna take the bridge. that kinda annoys me, we 0 clicked this week so we could get to t5 quicker to practise, i don't think it should be an option but while it is we will take it
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  7. #97
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    F'lhinna Kutseru
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroHigh View Post
    players found a strategy around it that works for them. Shouldn't you promote player creativity with different strategies
    Mindlessly spamming AOE heals, isnt a strategy. It works but its stupid as hell.
    It never should be an option for an endgame content.
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  8. #98
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    Oshi Itsme
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ustav View Post
    How is it possible to t1 with 1 tank? Also, on excalibur at least, I have yet to see an issue with tanks being left out of coil due to the Enrage strategy.
    Well it is indeed possible to solo tank t1 if you didn't know. My static has been doing it for 2 months or maybe more just going with 1 more DPS its easier to kill stuff and burn through phases.
    You can solo tank the whole coil 1-5, also you dont even need to wait for enrage in t2 with 1 tank, you can do t2 normal way with 1 tank only spamming adlo and ss on MT.
    However i think SE is quite aware of this and most likely turns 6-10 will have some stack mechanics in bosses that's not possible to avoid even with shields and stuff so they will force 2 tanks in the future.
    Anyway to do solo tank coil 1-5 you need pretty good DPS and healers plus overgeared tank i guess, so no way you can pug solo tank 1-4 most likely.
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  9. #99
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    Aeriyn Ashley
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by NeonC View Post
    It's the principle people! If everyone keeps defending it and SE keeps making content with easy mode kills or keeps decreasing difficulty that's no fun to me. It's telling me that the future content of the game will be made with no real challenge. I have just started t5 but it worries me that people seem to prefer simple boring fights to complex tough ones.
    Unfortunately for you, the folks who want "real challenge" are the minority. Those who don't, would rather grind their way to victory, or simply can't be arsed to wipe on something for dozens of hours across weeks of time, are the majority. When you multiply the numbers by the subscription fee, I'm sorry, but ya'll really don't add up to that much.

    Pleasing you lot exclusively would cost SE a lot of money, and they aren't going to do that just so you can lord over the "noobs" and lengthen your epeen.

    Disclaimer: I don't do T2 this way, either and I find it boring to do it this way, but I don't care if other people do it this way. What I care about is that the ADS hates me and will not drop caster gear.
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  10. #100
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by CUTS3R View Post
    Mindlessly spamming AOE heals, isnt a strategy. It works but its stupid as hell.
    It never should be an option for an endgame content.
    Whether you call it a strategy, method, exploit, or gimmick, they all mean the same thing really. Who are you decide how difficult "1" boss in all of BC is? SE should hire you with the many years of game development you have under your belt.

    Quote Originally Posted by synaesthetic View Post
    What I care about is that the ADS hates me and will not drop caster gear.
    Seriously, I've only gotten one thing from ADS for my summoner.
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    Last edited by ZeroHigh; 01-21-2014 at 08:02 PM.

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