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    DenzelTaru's Avatar
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    Denzel Taru
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    Arcanist Lv 51
    Turn 2 annoys me a little, cos my party is very capable in doing it the normal way, we 2 shot it the other week for instance (which is great for a newly formed FC static) but, because the option is there to just mindlessly hit it with overhealing, we do it.. cos its too convenient.. if there is a winding path to the left taking you from A to B then someone just builds a bridge between A to B, you're gonna take the bridge. that kinda annoys me, we 0 clicked this week so we could get to t5 quicker to practise, i don't think it should be an option but while it is we will take it
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    Havenchild's Avatar
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    Avalen Koma
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Anyone who doesn't think the enrage strategy is affecting the overall balance is silly. T2 is struggling to find healers on average now while T4 is struggling to find Tanks.
    This imbalance comes from this 3 Healer, 4 DPS, 1 Tank formation.
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    Ashley Zeibel
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Anyone who doesn't think the enrage strategy is affecting the overall balance is silly. T2 is struggling to find healers on average now while T4 is struggling to find Tanks.
    This imbalance comes from this 3 Healer, 4 DPS, 1 Tank formation.
    This is what people fail to realize. T2 enrage is a problem for everyone who relies on PUGs to do Coil (and don't come here "blah blah do in static blah". T1-T4 are easily puggable at this point). You're only hurting yourselves.

    Enjoy having too many healers and too few PUG tanks for T4. I'm seeing a lot of parties taking quite a while to fill due to that imbalance.

    Thankfully it doesn't affect me. Oh well, have fun I guess.
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    KenzieLynch's Avatar
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    Kenzie Lynch
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by AdvancedWind View Post
    This is what people fail to realize. T2 enrage is a problem for everyone who relies on PUGs to do Coil (and don't come here "blah blah do in static blah". T1-T4 are easily puggable at this point). You're only hurting yourselves.

    Enjoy having too many healers and too few PUG tanks for T4. I'm seeing a lot of parties taking quite a while to fill due to that imbalance.

    Thankfully it doesn't affect me. Oh well, have fun I guess.
    You have GOT to be kidding me. Trying to find a PUG group where all 8 members new how to pass rot was near impossible. This method makes pugging much more reliable.

    In regards to the imbalance, the problem on most servers is a lack of tanks (hence the bonus) so this would actually be helping.
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    Last edited by KenzieLynch; 01-21-2014 at 11:53 PM.

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    Nadrojj's Avatar
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    Nadrojj Rolyatt
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryios View Post
    It's a cheap strat, even if devs said its ok. "They originally said DD was working as intended and they nerfed that".

    I'm so tired of seeing Turn 2 Enrage strat in BCB. And now people are 1 Tanking turn 1 - 4 with the enrage strat on t2 leaving a ton of tanks left out. It's not in the design of the mechanics of the rest of the raid, how is it not considered broken?

    I mean SE, you went through all the trouble to design all the mini bosses with mechanics you can choose to leave in and take out. Then you made it so people can just go "meh who cares" "MEdica Spam II on" and still win. And then you supported it.

    Yet you patch the tree glitch on the first boss in AK, Nerf Dark Devices, fix the "jump off the platform with medica II Titan HM glitch" etc, and you say this one is ok and working as designed?

    Seriously confused SE.
    Sounds like someone doesn't have a coil static and is sick of sitting on the sidelines.
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    Shirai's Avatar
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    Shirai N'yankoro
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadrojj View Post
    Sounds like someone doesn't have a coil static and is sick of sitting on the sidelines.
    Quote Originally Posted by AdvancedWind View Post
    Thankfully it doesn't affect me. Oh well, have fun I guess.
    This pretty much.
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    Mergadeth's Avatar
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    Apothica Darkstar
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    Exodus
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    Archer Lv 50
    >.< Lol, this is like being angry at someone for winning the lottery. Darn them! All they had to do was scratch off a few numbers and i had to work for 80 hours a week to get the same amount of money! Nooooo!

    Maybe not exactly but...lighten up gais It's just a game and you are supposed to be having fun! I know I am.

    Seriously though, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. Each side has valid points but for now SE has directly stated its not an exploit. Until they change their minds people are going to clear it in whatever fashion they choose. More power to them. Doesn't affect me at all.
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    Too Short
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    Hyperion
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    Archer Lv 50
    You don't understand that they worked hard for that digital achievement. Now they can't put it on their future job resumes.
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    Ryios Locke
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    Coeurl
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    Gladiator Lv 68
    Actually, I have a coil static. We clear 1-4 every monday in 40 minutes. I have warrior and paladin to 50 and both are il89 in mytho. Warrior has Dual Haken and Paladin has Zenith, and Black Mage has Elder Staff (which means I farm the EM Primals every monday too). We are working on Turn 5 when we can get people to show up.

    You don't have to stereotype me for hating the Enrage method. It's my opinion like or not. The normal mechanic isn't even hard. Two silences, pass rot, and dodge stuff, it's not hard really.

    What really annoys me about it is they patch every other fight people find a work around for, but they say this one is ok....
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    Apothica Darkstar
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    Exodus
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryios View Post

    What really annoys me about it is they patch every other fight people find a work around for, but they say this one is ok....
    Regardless of whatever method we choose....i do agree with you here. Doesn't seem to be a rhyme or reason to what they choose to nerf/fix and what not to. One minute they say something is fine and the next day it's been changed. It's almost like no one communicates over there. It's all "whatever they feel like despite what they've told us" kind of thing.

    So instead of crying about things i don't like....i play the game and have fun. When it stops being fun i won't play, simple enough.
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