Please patch Turn 2 enrage

[Crysten]

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My coil static uses the enrage method because it's a lot less stressful. Simple as. The fact that this annoys you has no bearing on me or the way my static does things whatsoever. SE have already said this is working as intended. In March, the content is going to be nerfed anyway. If tanks are that desperate for T2 drops, they'd start their own parties if they don't have a static.

In other words, why does this thread exist?

[DoctorPepper]

No worries guys, turn 2 will be nerfed into the ground come march most likely as they turn it into a DF raid. I think SE is better off spending their time tweaking/fixing bugs in turn 6-9 than worrying about people who suck getting some free loot from a fairly easy turn to begin with. Any static that does this method is wasting about 5-8 minutes of their time so it's really not worth it if you have the coordination in your group to do it the right way.

[SinisterJoint]

what's sad about enrage mode is that it gets incompetent people past it. what's even more sad is that you run into people who have never done it the normal way. IDC that people are doing it this way, its just pathetic that people cant actually do it the normal way and that's why they do it. It most certainly is faster to do it the normal way.

People still don't have healer alts?

It's like this game doesn't have a class system at all.

no... they mean with a pug, you end up taking 3 healers because most cant do it with 2 lolol

[Purplenum]

If I'm not mistaken DD was never nerfed, they said what happened to it was accidental.

[Ryios]

Eh, yeah after the 2.2 announcement, this is irrelevant. I was merely commenting on a post someone commented me on, didn't realize I was bumbing this topic.

[Tobias_CB]

It must be nice to have a life that allows the luxury of being upset over such trivial things.

Furthermore, do you suppose that it might be a little ...arrogant... to assume that you know the intentions and motivations of complete strangers? (by which I mean the dev. team) So many in this thread have declared that they know! the true intent of those who designed and programmed this content, and, wouldn't you know it, it just happens to be exactly what they personally think aught to be done. What are the odds?

[Langureion]

Sorry kiddos, but you guys need to stop using T4 as an excuse for ppl not to do enrage in T2.
T4 has a total different strategy....srsly, wake up!
There are more things ppl can and will learn from other battles besides T2, it is not the only battle in FFXIV...

/popcorn

[Dhex]

You can change class in the waiting area between turns...

The biggest issue I see is people quitting after Turn 1 and leaving a surplus of tanks trying to Party Finder a Turn 2 group; these groups generally are setup by a tank allowing them a 100% Need on any Fending gear that drops. This double skews the loot distribution among players that are not in static Coil groups - and it generally becomes a self perpetuating trend as people demand high iLv - meaning endgame tanking gear becomes more exclusive; and the problem of finding a tank or a healer becomes more difficult.

Personally I've felt the negative effects of this; but the 0 Click method is more reliable, and requires less organization. If you're the one getting that coveted Tank slot it's actually really very nice.

March will change much of this hopefully and allow Tanks and Healers without dedicated statics a chance to catch up their item level - otherwise the disparity in well equipped Tanks/Healers would be perpetuated.

[Ryios]

The point of this thread had nothing to do with if it effects me, it has to do with why SE does one thing here, and not there. Sure it annoyed me at one point, but it doesn't really affect me, so you are all right there. Im more annoyed with these points though,

E.g.
1. They nerfed Speed Runs, added blockades, and went way out of there way to prevent speed runs to stop them from happening
2. They fixed every known exploit viewed fight strategy, including the tree on the first boss in ads, and the titan HM medica trick.
3. They nerfed DD, even though they tried to save face and say they did it on accident, don't see them undoing that accident yet, when I do I'll retract this statement.
4. I know Im forgetting a bunch...

SE constantly fixes things so we do them as they are designed. Enrage strat is clearly not how it was designed. That enraged was designed to kill you. The fight is so intricate at allowing you to choose which abilities you take from the ads and which ones you let the ads keep, but then you can just say "oh we'll just wait for zero clicks and kill him while he stands there doing nothing", which to me is the same thing as glitching titan and killing him while he stands there doing nothing (which they fixed).

SE has no consitency in what they do, they cherry pick issues handling each one differently then another just like it.

I understand why people find this offensive, you have T2 on farm with enrage and didn't without enrage. You don't want to lose that, and I get it.

But it's irrelevant, it's getting nerfed, so like I'm trying to say here. It's less about turn 2 specifically, and more about why se views this to be OK and other's as needing patched.

If T5 was the fight being enrage strated and it was raining allagan weapons, you bet SE would of patched that instantly.

[GurrenLagann]

They never nerfed DD, it is a bug

Greetings,

Since the hot fix that was applied in mid-October, we've been seeing reports that the Dark Devices FATE was adjusted/changed. However, we have confirmed with the Battle team that there have been no adjustments made to this specific FATE during the hotfix or subsequent updates.

As we've read a few reports from users about what was/wasn't changed, we'd like to get more information to pass along to the dev. team. The best way to do that would be to submit a bug report with as much detail as possible so we can closely examine any issues that may have arisen.

Uh huh, bug, but said bug still exists 2 major patches later. Conspiracy.

Fates are useless anyway.