Please patch Turn 2 enrage

[Asael]

as it is supposed to be a game-ender

Says who? Where was it ever mentioned that enrage in T2 is supposed to be a game-ender? T4 has an enrage that people hit all the time, so if we apply this logic in general I guess hitting the enrage on T4 should also be an instant wipe causing the party to start over.

Either method is easy, one is just good for groups that don't have the communication, compatibility, and cohesion a practiced static will have. It's not that big of a deal.

[Wizhard]

Says who? Where was it ever mentioned that enrage in T2 is supposed to be a game-ender?

It sure as hell shouldnt make the fight easier.

[Marishi-Ten]

It sure as hell shouldnt make the fight easier.

Sounds like you know how to develop video games. You know what they say, if you can't change it from the outside, change it from the inside: http://tbe.taleo.net/CH01/ats/career...ARE_ENIX&cws=1

[Asael]

It sure as hell shouldnt make the fight easier.

It doesn't.

The normal way is simply a strategy check on the group. If you so choose to do the enrage method it becomes a gear check. People just don't really tend to acknowledge the later due to the fact the enrage method didn't really come about until way after players were more heavily geared with myth and allagan sets. Like I said either way is very easy it just depends on which method tailors better to your group.

[Wizhard]

The normal way is simply a strategy check on the group. If you so choose to do the enrage method it becomes a gear check.

Thats...exactly my point? When you no longer need strategy for a fight how exactly is not easier? And the gear check is pretty low, there are people who done it with 2 sub ilvl80 healers.

[Asael]

Thats...exactly my point? When you no longer need strategy for a fight how exactly is not easier? And the gear check is pretty low, there are people who done it with 2 sub ilvl80 healers.

And? Seriously, it's not that hard to grasp. It's a trade off. Either you're going to take more time to plan out the execution of a strategy (which requires a stable and consistent group) or you're going to do a brute force method and put in the time to gear everyone up for survivability, damage, and healing power.

Yes, by today's standards the ilvl is low but try doing the enrage method with a party in all dark light. Not going to be so easy. Like I just said, the enrage method came to light pretty late in the game way after people had long since attained ilvl 80+. If this method came about earlier when people were first reaching T2, and most parties were still in dark light at ilvl60+ I seriously doubt many would be saying this strategy is cheap.

[Aicasia]

I don't even understand the problem. ADS's normal mechanics are garbage and the polar opposite of interesting and fun. It's a poorly designed boss.

[Jilse]

Says who? Where was it ever mentioned that enrage in T2 is supposed to be a game-ender? T4 has an enrage that people hit all the time, so if we apply this logic in general I guess hitting the enrage on T4 should also be an instant wipe causing the party to start over.

Either method is easy, one is just good for groups that don't have the communication, compatibility, and cohesion a practiced static will have. It's not that big of a deal.

Says every other Final Fantasy game ever. Heck, they put in enrage counters in XI just to stop people from taking too long to kill. You ever try and kill KB after he enrages? Do not be surprised if they put in a real enrage in a patch or two, just to watch people scream.

[remidi]

Says every other Final Fantasy game ever. Heck, they put in enrage counters in XI just to stop people from taking too long to kill. You ever try and kill KB after he enrages? Do not be surprised if they put in a real enrage in a patch or two, just to watch people scream.

They have already said its a viable strat. Deal with it and move on. There is more than one way to do an encounter. Don't be mad because someone figured out a super easy way to do so.


*Dead....whiny....horse

[Jilse]

They have already said its a viable strat. Deal with it and move on. There is more than one way to do an encounter. Don't be mad because someone figured out a super easy way to do so.


*Dead....whiny....horse

I am not mad, except at you calling me a dead whiny horse. I will most likely use the exploit until it is changed. All I am saying is you asked since when does enraged mean game ender. I said since always. Its a fact, the one most people are using to complain about the strat. I have played a lot of MMO, and up until this encounter, as far as I have seen, enrage does mean wipe.

As for "they have said its a viable strat", they say alot of things are working as intended and then do a fix. I am just saying do not be surprised when the mechanics change and you come back here being a whiny dead horse. Your words, not mine. Personally, I would be laughing my ass off if I went in one day all set for the enrage strat, and we go annihilated. Because its a game, and I would find it hilarious. Then I would come here, and laugh at all the posts exactly opposite of the OP point, wanting it back.